Cabin crew announcements - is there a minimum standard?
#61
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I'm profoundly deaf. I havent a clue what is being said on announcements. The announcements come so fast and said non-stop without a pause for breath that my husband cannot even relay the message. It is high time (pardon the pun) that airlines have to follow the same rules as transport on the ground in where they can be forced to make reasonable adjustments for disabilities.
#62
Join Date: Apr 2019
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NickB Fair points, my personal annoyances don’t make things hard to understand.
From your description of what you find hard to understand do you think a large part of it is actually enunciation. It may be that running words together is often associated with having a strong accent but if people spoke deliberately and clearly their accent would be less of an issue.
From your description of what you find hard to understand do you think a large part of it is actually enunciation. It may be that running words together is often associated with having a strong accent but if people spoke deliberately and clearly their accent would be less of an issue.
#63
Join Date: Jul 2016
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That's true but that is only one part of communication that happens on board an aircraft. What reasonable adjustment does the flight deck make when there's a delay and the pilot is making an announcement regarding this delay which may impact on forward travel? My deafness is noted on my BAEC profile but the cabin crew dont come up to me to ensure that I have been informed of delays etc. Just saying....
#64
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NickB Fair points, my personal annoyances don’t make things hard to understand.
From your description of what you find hard to understand do you think a large part of it is actually enunciation. It may be that running words together is often associated with having a strong accent but if people spoke deliberately and clearly their accent would be less of an issue.
From your description of what you find hard to understand do you think a large part of it is actually enunciation. It may be that running words together is often associated with having a strong accent but if people spoke deliberately and clearly their accent would be less of an issue.
#65
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
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That's true but that is only one part of communication that happens on board an aircraft. What reasonable adjustment does the flight deck make when there's a delay and the pilot is making an announcement regarding this delay which may impact on forward travel? My deafness is noted on my BAEC profile but the cabin crew dont come up to me to ensure that I have been informed of delays etc. Just saying....
#66
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To quote my Chilean Year 7 maths teacher: you making da noise you go ausside. We all understood her perfectly. The class consisted of something like 15-20 nationalities, and as far as I can recall only one person had English as their first language.
is it grammatically correct? No. Did she have a strong accent? Indeed she did. However, she made an effort to pronounce each word separately. To be honest that makes all the difference. It doesn’t matter if she turned present to past tense or used the wrong preposition - it was perfectly understandable.
is it grammatically correct? No. Did she have a strong accent? Indeed she did. However, she made an effort to pronounce each word separately. To be honest that makes all the difference. It doesn’t matter if she turned present to past tense or used the wrong preposition - it was perfectly understandable.
#67
Join Date: Feb 2015
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FEMW, I am sorry that there are so few accomodations for deaf passengers on the airlines.
I did wonder how my mention of being an American immediately rang a bell with you about having a disability? I want to make it clear for the record that being an American is not a disability, but I'm not sure I could have convinced by British born grandfather completely on that score. One of the many reasons I love to visit Britain, and Cornwall in particular, is to hear that beloved accent from my childhood one more time.
I did wonder how my mention of being an American immediately rang a bell with you about having a disability? I want to make it clear for the record that being an American is not a disability, but I'm not sure I could have convinced by British born grandfather completely on that score. One of the many reasons I love to visit Britain, and Cornwall in particular, is to hear that beloved accent from my childhood one more time.
#68
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: London, UK
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I'm profoundly deaf. I havent a clue what is being said on announcements. The announcements come so fast and said non-stop without a pause for breath that my husband cannot even relay the message. It is high time (pardon the pun) that airlines have to follow the same rules as transport on the ground in where they can be forced to make reasonable adjustments for disabilities.
#69
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Are the iPads specific to type or do you just have to select the right type of aircraft? On our short haul flight at the weekend we were told we had to disconnect devices from seat power when not in use and that we would find our flying start envelopes in our headphone bags - when there were no power sockets or headphones.
#70
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All announcements are on the iPads given to us by BA and you have to choose the short haul aircraft or long haul aircraft, it sounds like the wrong one was being read.