Slackness at DXB
#1
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Slackness at DXB
I just walked into the BA lounge and there was absolutely no one there. Poured myself a glass of wine, enjoyed it and walked out. Didn't see a soul.
Prior to that, went though security no problems. Then realised I had a bottle of water in my carry on. One wonders...
Prior to that, went though security no problems. Then realised I had a bottle of water in my carry on. One wonders...
#2
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Not quite DXB but the security part is interesting to me as when I was flying out of JNB they didn’t bother about liquids in carry on. Got on BA to Heathrow, liquids in carry on and no interest whatsoever, figured it was just a JNB thing. Then when it came time to go home, back through security, liquids, no one cared. But for the flight to SYD there was an extra check at the gate for no liquids
so in conclusion, could something similar be going on here? Or is inbound to the UK security slackening off in some ports?
so in conclusion, could something similar be going on here? Or is inbound to the UK security slackening off in some ports?
#5
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The check for liquids to Australia is because the Australian government decided they didn't want any liquids into the cabin on flights to Oz - pointless security theatre.
Meanwhile, airports with sufficiently advanced scanners (or, possibly sufficiently slack security theatre) permit any (harmless) liquids through security and on board. Unless, I suppose, you're going to Australia.
In any case, if you manage to get something through security against the rules it's not a problem unless you can do it (reasonably) predictably. For a security risk you need to have a malefactor able to bring a malicious object through a checkpoint. So if the checkpoint is 99.999% reliable and there are 0.0001% malefactors among passengers, you've got to coincide the malefactor with the checkpoint failure and that's a 0.0000001% chance.
Meanwhile, airports with sufficiently advanced scanners (or, possibly sufficiently slack security theatre) permit any (harmless) liquids through security and on board. Unless, I suppose, you're going to Australia.
In any case, if you manage to get something through security against the rules it's not a problem unless you can do it (reasonably) predictably. For a security risk you need to have a malefactor able to bring a malicious object through a checkpoint. So if the checkpoint is 99.999% reliable and there are 0.0001% malefactors among passengers, you've got to coincide the malefactor with the checkpoint failure and that's a 0.0000001% chance.
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LHR and HND apply different criteria to small pointy things. LHR is more realistic, HND is persnickety. For that matter, HKG (and PEK, and I assume all mainland Chinese airports) are entirely unreasonable.
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See what happened to a 74 year old that was "caught" with a Swiss Army knife in Japan....
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My wife brought a small pair of scissors in hand luggage around most major European and Asian airports for years, until it was confiscated at ADL domestic security (but had previously made it through SYD international).
I have inadvertently brought liquids, usually a small drink carton I have forgotten about, through many European airports too.
I have also brought water bottles onto flights to Australia, the staff at HKG and BKK never look thoroughly enough to find the hidden compartment at the bottom of my bag. Not flown via SIN since this rule came in.
I have inadvertently brought liquids, usually a small drink carton I have forgotten about, through many European airports too.
I have also brought water bottles onto flights to Australia, the staff at HKG and BKK never look thoroughly enough to find the hidden compartment at the bottom of my bag. Not flown via SIN since this rule came in.
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I have taken scissors through security at Calgary without realising it. It was only when I found them in the hand luggage 2 days later that I even realised
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Hopefully they were all busy re-organising the hot food warmers. I gave myself a nasty burn in that particular lounge last week extracting a sausage from the pan.