Avios earning on AS I fare class (First class)

Old Sep 16, 19, 2:05 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: DL PM (and falling fast!), AA EXP, IHG Spire, IC Amb
Posts: 3,860
Avios earning on AS I fare class (First class)

I looked at BAís earn chart but donít see any Avios earned for Alaska airlines for I Class, which is discounted First domestic.

Will I earn any redeemable Avios on this AS-ticketed+marketed flight if I use my BA number on the reservation?
355F1 is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 2:08 pm
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 26,509
Looking at the BA website on the general table and for a few specific routes, I am afraid an AS operated and marketed flight in I selling class doesn’t earn anything when crediting to BAEC.

Last edited by KARFA; Sep 16, 19 at 2:46 pm
KARFA is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 2:25 pm
  #3  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Alameda, CA, US
Programs: BAEC Gold (GGL/CCR), HHonors Diamond
Posts: 1,324
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
I looked at BAís earn chart but donít see any Avios earned for Alaska airlines for I Class, which is discounted First domestic.

Will I earn any redeemable Avios on this AS-ticketed+marketed flight if I use my BA number on the reservation?
Are you sure this is an Alaska flight? First on Alaska should be F and P, not I. American Airlines domestic first would book into I.
Gshumway is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 2:38 pm
  #4  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 26,509
Originally Posted by Gshumway View Post
Are you sure this is an Alaska flight? First on Alaska should be F and P, not I. American Airlines domestic first would book into I.
I can certainly see I class listed and available in EF on AS marketed and operated flights. It seems to be used as well, see the example below

KARFA is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 2:45 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, A3*G, Mucci de l'expertise des Apps
Posts: 2,649
Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Looking at the BA website on the general table and for a few specific routes, I am afraid an AS operated and marketed flight doesn’t earn anything when crediting to BAEC.
You mean AS operated and marketed in I doesn't earn anything? because other classes certainly do earn avios only.
KARFA likes this.
Airprox is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 2:46 pm
  #6  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 26,509
Originally Posted by Airprox View Post
You mean AS operated and marketed in I doesn't earn anything, because other classes certainly do.
Yes sorry, not sure how I left that bit out!
KARFA is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 3:53 pm
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Denver
Programs: AS, AA, B6, Hilton, Marriott
Posts: 766
I Class has become a relatively new discount F fare class, which is probably why BAEC hasn't updated the earning chart, which may mean you will not earn any Avios.
355F1 likes this.
safari ari is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 4:58 pm
  #8  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: DL PM (and falling fast!), AA EXP, IHG Spire, IC Amb
Posts: 3,860
Originally Posted by Gshumway View Post
Are you sure this is an Alaska flight? First on Alaska should be F and P, not I. American Airlines domestic first would book into I.

Yes. I just booked it on Alaskaís website. Itís AS metal.

I was trying to figure out where to credit the flight but it seemed like BA would be best because it is a (domestic) first class ticket.

But why would they award Avios for cheap economy flights but none for discounted FC? Seems a little weird. I donít know anything about AS but maybe they changed their fare codes and BA hasnít updated yet?

I am just really confused and would like to get some credit but AA (my OWE airline) doesnít offer any credit at all for an AS-ticketed flights.
355F1 is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 5:35 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Denver
Programs: AS, AA, B6, Hilton, Marriott
Posts: 766
Some contextual threads in the AS forum.

What Is "I" Class? (Discount First/Business)

"I" Class Fares Live? (Yes)
safari ari is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 8:36 pm
  #10  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: DL PM (and falling fast!), AA EXP, IHG Spire, IC Amb
Posts: 3,860
Originally Posted by safari ari View Post
Thank you.

One of those states we should post the question in the point-earning airlineís forum. LoL
355F1 is offline  
Old Sep 16, 19, 11:41 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBD, BAEC GGL/CCR
Posts: 692
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
Yes. I just booked it on Alaskaís website. Itís AS metal.
....
But why would they award Avios for cheap economy flights but none for discounted FC? Seems a little weird. I donít know anything about AS but maybe they changed their fare codes and BA hasnít updated yet?
This is almost certainly the reason - at least that BA are not aware yet of the new selling class. A similar situation arose a while back I think with a new QR business cabin selling class.

In that case the class was eventually added to the earning table so is worth maybe contacting BAEC to check that they are aware of the new selling class and wait a while to see if they make an agreement with AS to include it (no guarantee this will happen - it may still be excluded after their discussions with AS).
GinFizz is offline  
Old Sep 17, 19, 1:05 am
  #12  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oxon, UK
Programs: Mucci des canapes, Skywards Gold, BAEC Gold, IC Plat Amb, Accor Gold
Posts: 1,859
I can confim that I class is discounted First on AS and that it will not earn you any BA Avios - based on my experience in July
pomkiwi is offline  
Old Sep 17, 19, 2:20 am
  #13  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: BCN, Sitges, MAN
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, SkyMiles Gold, Mucci deux fois
Posts: 596
Originally Posted by pomkiwi View Post
I can confim that I class is discounted First on AS and that it will not earn you any BA Avios - based on my experience in July
Ditto. I put in a retrospective claim and was denied on the basis I class was heavily discounted First Class and was not therefore Avios-earning.
PrimaVista is offline  
Old Sep 17, 19, 10:09 am
  #14  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: DL PM (and falling fast!), AA EXP, IHG Spire, IC Amb
Posts: 3,860
Originally Posted by pomkiwi View Post
I can confim that I class is discounted First on AS and that it will not earn you any BA Avios - based on my experience in July
Originally Posted by PrimaVista View Post
Ditto. I put in a retrospective claim and was denied on the basis I class was heavily discounted First Class and was not therefore Avios-earning.

THANK YOU, to both of you!

I will try to look at crediting mny flight elsewhere.

Maybe SQ....?
355F1 is offline  
Old Sep 17, 19, 10:59 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: BCN, Sitges, MAN
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, SkyMiles Gold, Mucci deux fois
Posts: 596
Just as a reference point, this is what the BA Avios/TP Calculator churns out for Alaska:

PrimaVista is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread