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Jean2019 Sep 8, 19 11:24 am

Bring your own .....
 
Good afternoon all,

Traveling to Vienna in economy via T3 (after the strike) and plan to buy a bottle of vodka in the non-duty free shelves in the T3 World Duty 3 shop. Only a short stay in Vienna, and a litre of voddy is overkill. :)

i understand that BA doesn’t object to buying and bringing a picnic on board but if I buy a couple of cans of cola on board is their any objection to opening my voddy?

I’m old enough to exercise self-control, but wouldn’t dream of doing this if it were frowned on in any way.

Any advice appreciated.

Jean

Obruni Boy Sep 8, 19 11:38 am

There is may be a policy against it and you’re not supposed to open duty free in transit. (I see now you’re not using duty free). That said just do it and don't make a fuss or issue over it. I am sure the flight attendants aren’t bothered. If BA expect you to buy drinks they shouldn’t make a problem of anyone bringing their own.

dsf Sep 8, 19 11:45 am

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Just last week I noticed High Life magazine says consuming your own alcohol onboard isn't allowed. I didn't recognise the message, it sounded like a new rule to me but I'm open to correction. As to whether it's enforced I cannot comment, but to admit to having taken a can of beer from the lounge onboard a couple of times without issue / being caught.

Brisbane Road Sep 8, 19 11:50 am

If you keep it discrete, you'll be absolutely fine I'm sure.

Jean2019 Sep 8, 19 11:52 am


Originally Posted by dsf (Post 31503768)
Just last week I noticed High Life magazine says consuming your own alcohol onboard isn't allowed. I didn't recognise the message, it sounded like a new rule to me but I'm open to correction. As to whether it's enforced I cannot comment, but to admit to having taken a can of beer from the lounge onboard a couple of times without issue / being caught.

Thanks for that. It’s clear it is discouraging this but I find it odd that is says “should not” rather than “must not”. Apart from the reasonable concern of people over drinking I don’t see the difference between eating carried on sandwiches compared to voddy.

That seems a clear steer not to, and if it is against the law or BA terms it’s a shame they don’t simply say so - but hopefully I’ll receive some more views.

Thanks again.

stampcollector Sep 8, 19 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by dsf (Post 31503768)
Just last week I noticed High Life magazine says consuming your own alcohol onboard isn't allowed. I didn't recognise the message, it sounded like a new rule to me but I'm open to correction. As to whether it's enforced I cannot comment, but to admit to having taken a can of beer from the lounge onboard a couple of times without issue / being caught.

Ths is often (always) policy on (UK) airlines as it allows the crew to monitor your intake so they can cut you off if they think you've had too much, something which is hard to do if everyone has a bottle of smirnoff from duty free hidden in their bag!! (It is infact a crime to be drunk on an aircraft (definitely British, not sure about aircraft registered elsewhere)).

sunshinebob Sep 8, 19 12:14 pm

Take an empty bottle of mineral water and decant a snifter or two of the Vodka into it before you board.

Leave it in plain sight and no one will give two hoots that you diluting your mixer.

Have a great trip..

HIDDY Sep 8, 19 12:17 pm

As long as you don't start singing over German airspace I recon you'll be okay....you seem sensible about it. ^

RichP Sep 8, 19 12:19 pm

If I were going down this route I'd be inclined to decant some of the vodka into a smaller container and use that to mix my drinks on board, rather than pour from a large bottle. From a purely logistical perspective, pouring from a small bottle might be easier as well!

krispy84 Sep 8, 19 12:19 pm

Perhaps call it Vodka rather than Voddy and you might get away with it 😁

djbenedict Sep 8, 19 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by krispy84 (Post 31503871)
Perhaps call it Vodka rather than Voddy and you might get away with it 😁

But n.b. the opposite if you are drinking Bollinger ;-)

jerry a. laska Sep 8, 19 2:01 pm

Have a look at the discussion here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-allows-9.html

Confus Sep 8, 19 2:27 pm

There's no need to be discreet (or discrete, for those so inclined), BA mainline policy is that customers are permitted to consume their own alcohol onboard. They will even happily provide you with a free plastic cup from the BoB trolley to enable you to do it in a relatively civilised manner. If the crew become concerned with how much you have drunk they will ask you to stop - at this point it becomes an offence not to comply.

I recently had a chat with a CSM who happened also to be a crew trainer about this (he watched me bring out a speedbird ale from my bag!)... he said that on BA at least there are far more 'valid' customers wanting to do this than problems with those who do, so they see no need to ban it outright. And long may that continue.

Duck1981 Sep 8, 19 2:49 pm

I brought yesterday 2 cans of Tiger from the lounge with me on board of my flight to AUH to make my flight in Y more manageable and it was no problem :)
Last year on an AA flight to LAX my friendly neighbour pulled me a glass of the small bottle of whiskey he brought on board

unnecessary to say, CC was not happy and 5min later the CSD came to check if we need anything (believe he just wanted to see if we were intoxicated).

Of course we were not :)

MFCC Sep 8, 19 4:42 pm

Customers are permitted to drink their own alcohol on board a BA aircraft. However, should the amount drunk become problematic then the crew are able to confiscate any ‘voddy’ passengers may have brought onboard with them. The confiscated alcohol will be returned at the end of the sector.

krispy84 Sep 8, 19 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by djbenedict (Post 31504139)


But n.b. the opposite if you are drinking Bollinger ;-)

Au contraire, it’s always Bol-an-jay to me 🥂

babats Sep 9, 19 1:45 am


Originally Posted by Jean2019 (Post 31503706)
Good afternoon all,

Traveling to Vienna in economy via T3 (after the strike) and plan to buy a bottle of vodka in the non-duty free shelves in the T3 World Duty 3 shop. Only a short stay in Vienna, and a litre of voddy is overkill. :)

i understand that BA doesn’t object to buying and bringing a picnic on board but if I buy a couple of cans of cola on board is their any objection to opening my voddy?

I’m old enough to exercise self-control, but wouldn’t dream of doing this if it were frowned on in any way.

Any advice appreciated.

Jean

Surely you won't be allowed to take the liquid back through security on the return journey?

bigwalrus Sep 9, 19 2:21 am

What about a handful of miniatures in hand luggage (safely contained within the usual clear plastic bag?)

That way you can leave your duty free purchase untouched and it gives you something to decanter the leftover vodka into for your return journey.

The_Bouncer Sep 9, 19 3:37 am

Instead of cans of Coke, buy a couple of small bottles and doctor them up before you board.

KARFA Sep 9, 19 4:23 am


Originally Posted by The_Bouncer (Post 31505773)
Instead of cans of Coke, buy a couple of small bottles and doctor them up before you board.

that seems quite sad. as noted above it is allowed on BA - albeit the highlife magazine seems to have dreamed up it's own policy!

Jean2019 Sep 9, 19 4:27 am


Originally Posted by babats (Post 31505590)
Surely you won't be allowed to take the liquid back through security on the return journey?

Thanks ... I don't intend to.

BlueThroughCrimp Sep 9, 19 4:33 am

Get some oranges and pre-infuse them with the vodka ;)

DorsetKnob Sep 9, 19 5:12 am


Originally Posted by BlueThroughCrimp (Post 31505852)
Get some oranges and pre-infuse them with the vodka ;)

Ahhh the old terraces (football not lounge) trick

BlueThroughCrimp Sep 9, 19 5:33 am


Originally Posted by DorsetKnob (Post 31505911)
Ahhh the old terraces (football not lounge) trick

Oh yes!

salut0 Sep 9, 19 5:46 am


Originally Posted by krispy84 (Post 31503871)
Perhaps call it Vodka rather than Voddy and you might get away with it 😁

Or as long as you don’t start too early in the morning drinking Voddy with your brekky. Maybe a side of veggies would help? It’s probably more traditional to have an accompanying toastie but some might like a cookie. Does anyone in Scotland drink theirs with a roastie?

Worcester Sep 9, 19 6:16 am


Originally Posted by salut0 (Post 31505965)


Or as long as you don’t start too early in the morning drinking Voddy with your brekky.

Bloody Mary?

gingerlucy Sep 9, 19 6:38 am


Originally Posted by Jean2019 (Post 31503706)
Good afternoon all,

Traveling to Vienna in economy via T3 (after the strike) and plan to buy a bottle of vodka in the non-duty free shelves in the T3 World Duty 3 shop. Only a short stay in Vienna, and a litre of voddy is overkill. :)

i understand that BA doesn’t object to buying and bringing a picnic on board but if I buy a couple of cans of cola on board is their any objection to opening my voddy?

I’m old enough to exercise self-control, but wouldn’t dream of doing this if it were frowned on in any way.

Any advice appreciated.

Jean

We often do this if not travelling in CE as it is much cheaper than the BoB drinks prices in ET.

The key is to ask nicely in advance - do not assume. I think if you ask first the CC get the "right impression" that you are not there to get hammered, whereas if they catch you in the act it may look less like something they feel able to condone. I always phrase it along the lines of "if it's alright with you, and of course it's fine if the answer is no, but would it be OK if..." We wait for the BoB trolley to reach us to ask this (this may require some patience) unless during boarding the crew member happens to be loitering near us with nothing else to do. We don't otherwise interrupt them.

I would also not pull out a whole litre of vodka. If we are doing this we buy one of the little bottles of spirits from the shop - not minatures but the 20cl bottles that are usually found on the approach to the tills, like this:

https://uk.worlddutyfree.com/ukm_en/...el-20cl-2.html

We also buy a couple of cans of coke (or alternatively may on occasion consider liberating a can of mixer from a lounge, don't tell).

The size of the bottle again makes it clearer to the CC that we aren't planning on getting outrageously drunk - shared between two it is two doubles each which is enough but not outrageous and within the bounds of what BA would usually be OK serving anyway. We show them the bottle once the BoB trolley reaches us and ask if it is OK if we share this during the flight and if so please could we have some cups and ice. We also like to buy some food at the same time, both to reassure that it won't be on an empty stomach and because as I understand it they are on commission so lose out by us drinking our own.

We've done this a lot and never been denied. Responses have ranged from immediate approval, to a jokey (although perhaps with some underlying seriousness) warning not to get drunk, to going to check with someone first, but it has never been a no.

If your intention, however, is that you want to buy a litre of vodka in order to (eventually) take it home with you, rather than your goal actually being a lower cost option for plane drinking, ignore my comments on the small bottle but perhaps say outright that you only intend to have one or two, not the whole thing! The rest should hold.

VSLover Sep 9, 19 6:41 am

there is a difference between opening your bottle on a flight to/from ibiza or mykonos...and basically every other city LOL. those rules are there for a reason :)

Smid Sep 9, 19 6:47 am


Originally Posted by BlueThroughCrimp (Post 31505852)
Get some oranges and pre-infuse them with the vodka ;)

OhOhOh.

Vodka Jellys made at home! Brought through security (I assume they'll not be turned back, or be over 50ml).

Make you feel like you're at a teenage party again...

Smid Sep 9, 19 6:50 am

Previously you used to get about 2 x 50ml bottles on a trip over in Y in Shorthaul when they were free.

You can get a 100ml empty bottle from the shops, fill with vodka (at home if you want, avoided Duty Paid), and take through security.

Also shows no intention of letting it get out of control, it only being 100ml.

Don't repeat my mistake, and mix up the bottles when refilling, and use the one previously used for mouthwash. Minty vodka and diet coke isn't great...

Jean2019 Sep 10, 19 6:18 am

Thanks All ......
 
Outward and return travel kit - courtesy of Intercontinental Hotel’s mini-bar(s) .....

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e46bf3a7.jpeg


Thanks All,

itsmeitisss Sep 10, 19 6:48 am


Originally Posted by djbenedict (Post 31504139)



But n.b. the opposite if you are drinking Bollinger ;-)

But only if you are Joanna Lumley ;)

krispy84 Sep 10, 19 7:36 am


Originally Posted by itsmeitisss (Post 31509638)
But only if you are Joanna Lumley ;)

Followed by the obligatory “darling”.

Can be used as a question, a statement and a demand.

DeathSlam Sep 10, 19 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by dsf (Post 31503768)
Just last week I noticed High Life magazine says consuming your own alcohol onboard isn't allowed.

I had understood this to be the case for many years, Both duty free and paid.
All the traveller responses on this thread would seem to indicate otherwise and that duty paid is ok.
There may be a difference between what is acceptable in practice and what is in the rules.
If you don't make a twonk of yourself I can imagine CC have better things to do.
Break the seal on duty free bag and it's not going to make it through a security check, but since you're on a direct flight that might not be a consideration.,

navylad Sep 10, 19 3:00 pm

I’m more worried about the light fingered people on the thread than those drinking sensible.

Steve in Olympia Sep 11, 19 2:57 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 31505837)
....as noted above it is allowed on BA - albeit the highlife magazine seems to have dreamed up it's own policy!

Page 114 of the current issue (Sept. ‘19) of High Life states, “Customers should not consume alcohol brought on to the aircraft by themselves or another customer.”

DYKWIA Sep 11, 19 2:59 am


Originally Posted by Steve in Olympia (Post 31512954)
Page 114 of the current issue (Sept. ‘19) of High Life states, “Customers should not consume alcohol brought on to the aircraft by themselves or another customer.”

As per Post 3 on this very thread.

hypercrypt Sep 11, 19 3:25 am


Originally Posted by dsf (Post 31503768)
Just last week I noticed High Life magazine says consuming your own alcohol onboard isn't allowed. I didn't recognise the message, it sounded like a new rule to me but I'm open to correction. As to whether it's enforced I cannot comment, but to admit to having taken a can of beer from the lounge onboard a couple of times without issue / being caught.

As an engineer, I would take me definition of should not from RFC 2119 - https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt


should not This phrase, or the phrase "not recommended" mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances when the particular behavior is acceptable or even useful, but the full implications should be understood and the case carefully weighed before implementing any behavior described with this label.

Smid Sep 11, 19 4:52 am


Originally Posted by DeathSlam (Post 31511281)
I had understood this to be the case for many years, Both duty free and paid.
All the traveller responses on this thread would seem to indicate otherwise and that duty paid is ok.
There may be a difference between what is acceptable in practice and what is in the rules.

This was discussed extensively when BOB was brought in: Bring on Board... The exact rules on alcohol? BA allows it?

The basic legality is it is not illegal. It is up to the airlines to say if its allowed. "Low cost"* airlines tend to ban them, often because their customers are more likely to be downing a bottle of duty free at 6am, and then having a fight.

When BA changed the rules so there was a reason to "Bring on board", this was deemed to be ok.

There is often a lot of referral to it being illegal, indeed, on "low cost" airlines, who probably use that phrase because it is a bit moot as to whether its illegal in the country, versus illegal on their airline because they can say what is legal onboard.

It might actually be illegal over continental US, and US airlines.

* "Low cost" is quoted by me, because I regard this as a marketing term rather than any particularly low costs, unless you are fine flying at 5am on a Wednesday morning. For instance a jet2 flight with luggage and booked seat next July from Birmingham to Budapest currently sells as £50 more than Club Europe London to Budapest on the same days.

hewittj1 Sep 11, 19 6:02 am


Originally Posted by DorsetKnob (Post 31505911)
Ahhh the old terraces (football not lounge) trick

Or the old "I'm flying back to Saudi" trick !!


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