Moved from pre-paid seat, now blocked by Airport Ops
Apologies for the frustrated vent in advance but 2 weeks ago I paid for a seat in Club, selecting 53A on the upper deck on the A380 (unrestricted aisle access) on tomorrow's 297 to ORD. Went to check in and had been moved to 50B, obviously a much worse seat. Called BA and they stated that the seat had been blocked by Airport Operations and there was nothing they could do. Checked expertflyer and it concurs the seat is blocked and not occupied.
Anyone have an idea why this happened? Are they saving it for a Gold or GGL? Any chance it gets unblocked? Pretty infuriating when you pay nearly £100 for a seat. Thanks! |
For what it's worth, this is the current seat map. I'm in 57A now which isn't terrible as long as the seats around remain unoccupied. Strange that the seat I was moved to 50B is now blocked.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9c658e7535.png |
Theoretical seating - 50B I imagine is now blocked as there's a status PAX in 50A
Unless 53A is crew rest - I'd ask again at the airport |
Blocked by the airport ops could also mean that the seat has developed a fault that will not be fixed before you flight tomorrow.
Either way you'll get your £100 back if you've been moved when you actually fly. |
Originally Posted by nick.t.davies
(Post 31493635)
Blocked by the airport ops could also mean that the seat has developed a fault that will not be fixed before you flight tomorrow.
Regrettably BA don’t move the lower tiers for Gold and above. 😉 |
Did you ask for your seat reservation fee to be refunded? That's the least BA can do. Very little point paying for seat reservation and then not getting it.
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
(Post 31493600)
Theoretical seating - 50B I imagine is now blocked as there's a status PAX in 50A
Unless 53A is crew rest - I'd ask again at the airport |
Thank you for all the responses!
Originally Posted by AJA_
(Post 31493643)
Did you ask for your seat reservation fee to be refunded? That's the least BA can do. Very little point paying for seat reservation and then not getting it.
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I don't think you'd get moved from a paid seat if a status pax booked 53B, you might not be able to book it if they got their first but you should be fine the other way around (I think). It's much more likely an ops thing with that aircraft or a crew rest if that's the right seat for it.
As Swanhunter says, keep an eye on it as it might open up again before your flight. So feel free to check in but don't get a BP. |
Originally Posted by peter.r.erskine
(Post 31493657)
I guess I was also possibly bumped if there's a Gold or GGL in 53B?
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Originally Posted by windowontheAside
(Post 31493679)
That's often suggested here as a possibility but I don't think I've ever seen any evidence that this happens. Certainly more knowledgeable folk than me will tell you it's not how things work.
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Originally Posted by peter.r.erskine
(Post 31493665)
Thank you for all the responses!
Yes I spent some time on the phone. They couldn't do it straight away as I had originally paid for a seat in WT+ then upgraded with Avios to Club so only had to pay the difference in seat selection and he couldn't refund the two separate payments. Forwarded my case to refunds team but dear only knows how long that will take with current strike related refunds. TBF BA are pretty good at refunding you once they've agreed to do so. You may have to give them a gentle prod in a couple of weeks. I hope your flight goes smoothly and that whatever seat you end up in is good for you. |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 31493695)
agreed, i have no ability to shift anyone.. taking a seat next to someone else does not result in them being moved.
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Originally Posted by LCY8737
(Post 31493828)
Great shame. I have a CE flight coming up where I'm in row 4. The horror! |
Thank you for all the helpful/informative/kind replies! This is why I love the BAEC page in FlyerTalk!
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Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 31493695)
agreed, i have no ability to shift anyone.. taking a seat next to someone else does not result in them being moved.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 31493695)
agreed, i have no ability to shift anyone.. taking a seat next to someone else does not result in them being moved.
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We’re in 53 D/E |
This happened to me. Never got the explanation and pax who ended up in our seat we’re not crew. Not sure what happened. BA refunded our entire parties seat fee though. |
I see today’s flight nearly 2 hours late departing, hope tomorrow is on time! |
Originally Posted by peter.r.erskine
(Post 31493657)
I guess I was also possibly bumped if there's a Gold or GGL in 53B?
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You can be bumped for another passenger under certain conditions. An autistic passenger might need a window seat with isle access or even the same seat they have had on previous flights. |
Originally Posted by anniegray
(Post 31494526)
We’re in 53 D/E |
Originally Posted by joejet
(Post 31495341)
You can be bumped for another passenger under certain conditions. An autistic passenger might need a window seat with isle access or even the same seat they have had on previous flights. However I think this probably isn't the case here since the seat would be allocated, not blocked, normally; this is more likely a defective seat given the circumstances described by the OP. For 90% plus (made up statistic alert) of defective seats, they are usually fixed on return to London, so long as the turnaround was long enough for it. So ideally one doesn't print the boarding pass, since the Flight Management Unit will reinstate the seat closer to departure. Occasionally FMU aren't told a seat is fixed, plus there are the mysterious problems which vanish after a few hours of non use (aka power down, power up). But that is what I think the cause is here. |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 31496297)
That can happen, and those with assistance dogs also can only sit in particular parts of the aircraft and can lead to seat shifting. My two incidents in recent years of this (leaving aside the likely cause......) was once for a very, very nervous flyer, and also to make room for a lovely Golden Retriever.
However I think this probably isn't the case here since the seat would be allocated, not blocked, normally; this is more likely a defective seat given the circumstances described by the OP. For 90% plus (made up statistic alert) of defective seats, they are usually fixed on return to London, so long as the turnaround was long enough for it. So ideally one doesn't print the boarding pass, since the Flight Management Unit will reinstate the seat closer to departure. Occasionally FMU aren't told a seat is fixed, plus there are the mysterious problems which vanish after a few hours of non use (aka power down, power up). But that is what I think the cause is here. |
Well ffs we’ve been thrown out of 53, they say inoperable. I’m most annoyed to say the least. And the hot food in Flounge is awful, cold and stale. And this is after changing my flights 2 days becsuse of the strikes. So many better airlines out there |
Originally Posted by anniegray
(Post 31496896)
Well ffs we’ve been thrown out of 53, they say inoperable. I’m most annoyed to say the least. And the hot food in Flounge is awful, cold and stale. And this is after changing my flights 2 days becsuse of the strikes. So many better airlines out there |
Oops sorry for my rant. I have survived. Nice to meet you Peter Hope you get your money back soon. Surely they could make an effort to repair seats! |
Only Premiers can bump people out of seats. We uncovered this once. The tell signs if you ask at the airport, and the Manager there is obliging, is the IT record with show “Seat changed by a staff member in London” Reasons “Operational” then someone is sat there when you get on and the CSM iPad shows the colour “Black” - its an unwritten benefit & BA will never formally admit it happens. |
There was somebody on here that used to brag that he always got his preferred seat - and that BA would move people around to accommodate.
He also said he'd often phone the JFK station manager to ask them to hold a flight if he was running late. Not a premier from what I recall. Of course, no way of knowing if he was a Walter Mitty, but he had a long track record on FT. I can't recall his handle though unfortunately. |
Originally Posted by anniegray
(Post 31499232)
Oops sorry for my rant. I have survived. Nice to meet you Peter Hope you get your money back soon. Surely they could make an effort to repair seats! |
Originally Posted by anniegray
(Post 31499232)
Oops sorry for my rant. I have survived. Nice to meet you Peter Hope you get your money back soon. Surely they could make an effort to repair seats! |
Originally Posted by peter.r.erskine
(Post 31506024)
Lovely to meet you too, thank you for coming to say hello! Interesting I took a peek at 53A during the flight and there was someone using it.. hmm..
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Last time I flew A380 CW there was a broken seat (also not reclining) but the captains wife very gratefully sat in it during the flight vs sitting in a jump seat!
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