Assistance with trying to target new 777-2 to NYC
Aug 30, 2019, 7:48 am
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Assistance with trying to target new 777-2 to NYC
Hi all,
Wondering if someone can help me decipher and understand if we might manage to get on a club suite on a future trip to NYC.
We are planning to fly on a Thursday and return on a Monday to NYC (JFK or Newark fine) in early April next year, having done some google-fu I can see there is an expectation that the newly suited 777-2s will be on that route by then in the majority. A thread on here (attached) shows this list.
My question:
1. Can someone sort of translate this into meaning for me? Does it mean nearly all the route is *intended* to be served by 777-2s for all of these flight numbers by the end of Feb/March next year? On our dates the original flight numbers for the CS (174 and 177) are showing normal seat configs for the current 777 model.
2. The seating plans aren’t coming up as the new CS, but I assume this would be too early anyway?
We are taking a punt and don’t mind if it isn’t the CS but we would like to try it if we are going and be in with a chance. Our current methodology is to try and decipher the attached image and just book on any flights that have a good shot. Any help much appreciated or recommendations
thanks
Wondering if someone can help me decipher and understand if we might manage to get on a club suite on a future trip to NYC.
We are planning to fly on a Thursday and return on a Monday to NYC (JFK or Newark fine) in early April next year, having done some google-fu I can see there is an expectation that the newly suited 777-2s will be on that route by then in the majority. A thread on here (attached) shows this list.
My question:
1. Can someone sort of translate this into meaning for me? Does it mean nearly all the route is *intended* to be served by 777-2s for all of these flight numbers by the end of Feb/March next year? On our dates the original flight numbers for the CS (174 and 177) are showing normal seat configs for the current 777 model.
2. The seating plans aren’t coming up as the new CS, but I assume this would be too early anyway?
We are taking a punt and don’t mind if it isn’t the CS but we would like to try it if we are going and be in with a chance. Our current methodology is to try and decipher the attached image and just book on any flights that have a good shot. Any help much appreciated or recommendations
thanks
Aug 30, 2019, 12:08 pm
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I personally would suggest you are too far out to try to nab a CS. (There’s a thread for this by the way 
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On that route why not go for a 747 UD, hopefully refurbished. As someone kindly pointed out recently that the 747 UD only has less than 4 years left! The CS is going to be here for...god knows how long.
No aircraft is ever guaranteed so pick based on timings and cost within your budget. If this is your only chance to fly Club (business) and you’re desperate to get the Suites, this is going to be tricky to guess, even with all the great knowledge on here.
) On that route why not go for a 747 UD, hopefully refurbished. As someone kindly pointed out recently that the 747 UD only has less than 4 years left! The CS is going to be here for...god knows how long.
No aircraft is ever guaranteed so pick based on timings and cost within your budget. If this is your only chance to fly Club (business) and you’re desperate to get the Suites, this is going to be tricky to guess, even with all the great knowledge on here.
Aug 30, 2019, 12:18 pm
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Yes, it's going to be too early to say anything definitive at the moment. With precisely one aircraft with the new seating, and a second still under testing, there really isn't going to be much confidence about things so far away. As a very general point, those trying to try the CS are operating on 6 week time frames or less. That won't continue indefinitely, but if anyone is able to say that X is going to happen in April next year, I think I would challenge the plausibility at this stage.
At some point CS will be all over the fleet, and these questions will come thick and fast. But for now it's pure crystal ball gazing.
At some point CS will be all over the fleet, and these questions will come thick and fast. But for now it's pure crystal ball gazing.
Aug 30, 2019, 3:54 pm
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Apologies if my question offends you but please don’t be rude as if I’m not reading this. I asked a question that, in my opinion, was quite fair. I don’t think there is a need to act as if I am asking some benign or asinine question just because I don’t frequent the flying world as much as others (to whom I give respect in the hope they may afford me some help if I politely ask for it).
Aug 31, 2019, 12:43 am
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Let's point to this thread, which is probably the best placed to keep track of CS related developments:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...my-flight.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...my-flight.html
Aug 31, 2019, 12:44 am
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Aug 31, 2019, 12:49 am
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Apologies if my question offends you but please don’t be rude as if I’m not reading this. I asked a question that, in my opinion, was quite fair. I don’t think there is a need to act as if I am asking some benign or asinine question just because I don’t frequent the flying world as much as others (to whom I give respect in the hope they may afford me some help if I politely ask for it).
Aug 31, 2019, 2:07 am
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Aug 31, 2019, 2:08 am
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In which case you have many options, but I would consider:
1) the A318 service to LCY, that's a good proxy for First travel, and gives you a fast arrival at City airport.
2) A 787 service out of EWR, a good lounge setup there and a less febrile airport experience.
3) Particularly if travelling as a couple, Upper Deck Super J on the Queen.
Just swerve around 4 class 777 options.
1) the A318 service to LCY, that's a good proxy for First travel, and gives you a fast arrival at City airport.
2) A 787 service out of EWR, a good lounge setup there and a less febrile airport experience.
3) Particularly if travelling as a couple, Upper Deck Super J on the Queen.
Just swerve around 4 class 777 options.
Aug 31, 2019, 2:37 am
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Hi,
Also some prefer the daytime flights from JFK back to LHR as it reduces jet lag ( have not tried it myself)
Regards
TBS
Also some prefer the daytime flights from JFK back to LHR as it reduces jet lag ( have not tried it myself)
Regards
TBS