BA Cabin crew are all getting iPhones
#31
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I think this kind of thing can be really useful if used well, and discreetly as part of service. I recently flew EK J for the first time to Australia and back and technology (phones for regular crew, tablets for senior crew/managers) were heavily used by EK during the service.
I don't take it out on the crew, as on a 380 the J cabin is large and the service feels rushed (yet is still slow) - personally though I found it quite offputting whenever someone brought something to me, or was taking orders, that they'd look at me and smile, say "hello Mr..." while they look down at their phone and thumb something "pythonisman, would you be joining us for lunch?".
Yes, they're saying my name, but as the interaction is between me, them and their device it completely lacked any sense of being genuine. I expect it's hard, given the size of a J cabin to make a connection feel genuine, but the devices certainly didn't help with that.
I had a BA flight recently where a CSM prided himself on having excellent name recall - to the point where he greeted us by name several times during the flight without deferring to anything, it certainly felt much more special (and that was in WTP!)
Just my 2 cents anyway. If it can help with misconnects, irrops and service recovery that's a different kettle of fish and I'm all for it.
(And agree the cover in the media piece is not attractive in the slightest)
I don't take it out on the crew, as on a 380 the J cabin is large and the service feels rushed (yet is still slow) - personally though I found it quite offputting whenever someone brought something to me, or was taking orders, that they'd look at me and smile, say "hello Mr..." while they look down at their phone and thumb something "pythonisman, would you be joining us for lunch?".
Yes, they're saying my name, but as the interaction is between me, them and their device it completely lacked any sense of being genuine. I expect it's hard, given the size of a J cabin to make a connection feel genuine, but the devices certainly didn't help with that.
I had a BA flight recently where a CSM prided himself on having excellent name recall - to the point where he greeted us by name several times during the flight without deferring to anything, it certainly felt much more special (and that was in WTP!)
Just my 2 cents anyway. If it can help with misconnects, irrops and service recovery that's a different kettle of fish and I'm all for it.
(And agree the cover in the media piece is not attractive in the slightest)
#32
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As for the phones if they assist customer service and allow a better service for passengers - tight connections come immediately to mind - then I have no problem with this.
#33
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Well KLM manage successfully to do that - they announce all the connecting flights and departure gates about 15 minutes out from Schiphol, and also if anyone cannot make their connection. Have seen something along these.line with BA recently in flights from DUS and ABZ.but not being done consistently.
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I sincerely hope that any cached copy of the PIL stored on the phone is automatically deleted at the end of the flight and the new PIL is not accessible until briefing before the next flight.
I am sure that the iPad version has ironed out all of these kind of wrinkles and overall it is a very positive step.
I am sure that the iPad version has ironed out all of these kind of wrinkles and overall it is a very positive step.
#37
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I sincerely hope that any cached copy of the PIL stored on the phone is automatically deleted at the end of the flight and the new PIL is not accessible until briefing before the next flight.
I am sure that the iPad version has ironed out all of these kind of wrinkles and overall it is a very positive step.
I am sure that the iPad version has ironed out all of these kind of wrinkles and overall it is a very positive step.
#38
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I’d assume device management would be applied to these devices and the BA staff app would require authentication to log on (ie a passcode or similar?)
#39
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That will allow you access to the app but you still need to have been approved for access to customer info. If not you just see a blank fields that would otherwise show information. You also need to know certain information about the customer to be able to search. If the app isn't used for a certain period of time it logs out and if the iPad locks the same happens. The information isn't held on the iPad but securely on our servers. You can only access it through our iPads using our own dedicated encrypted wifi network. I
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#40
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The prospect of one of these phones (a large number of which will of course be taken all around the world) falling into the wrong hands is less than ideal.
Hopefully the security / protection measures put in place are indeed at the sort of level described above by Jimmie76.
#41
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Likewise, as corporate managed devices, they require both an Apple passcode to unlock the device, and then the individual user's BA credentials to get access to the BA-specific apps. Access will also time out after a pre-determined period of time. If it were lost, the device could then be locked and wiped remotely.
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#45
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A friend of mine at IAG was talking about this at the beginning of the year and what the idea behind it was( essentially exactly what's in the press release). As it will allow CC to be more proactive for when connections are missed due to delays then I think it's a good thing. My understanding is that after consulting with the pax about options that the CC will be able to rebook ( if necessary) onto another flight whilst still in the air or arrange for pax to be met at the gate to be assisted moving through the airport to the next flights gate if time is short both of which can only be a positive.
For those who harump about not getting their Gold Greeting this should also lower the rate for that considerably i'd imagine. Agree with @Iammorgan that the covers in the press release do look abit garish.
For those who harump about not getting their Gold Greeting this should also lower the rate for that considerably i'd imagine. Agree with @Iammorgan that the covers in the press release do look abit garish.