Disgusting BA [reseated due to vomit smell]
Aug 16, 2019, 9:12 am
#16
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thanks for proving that.
Aug 16, 2019, 9:32 am
#18
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If I were you I wouldn’t bother doing the Euromillions tonight or maybe you should, as the chances after a 5 year hiatus and getting a seat in this condition is very unfortunate and extremely disappointing I’m sure.
But I wouldn’t go as far as your comments that BA are disgusting and the worst or filthiest airline, I understand if it’s a rash quick judgement in anger but I wouldn’t be so quick to rule out any airline on this one episode! Sadly it happens and due to all airlines wanting to maximise their fleet and keep fares low, turnaround times leave very very little time to do, well, very very little.
As has been mentioned if the previous culprit didn’t report it through embarrassment then for a cleaner to spot it in the short period or crew, it’s a challenge. I’m not defending or suggesting it can’t be spotted and dealt with but the constraints of short turnaround mean it’s unlikely.
I would give BA another go if the schedule suits you but otherwise wait another 5 years, try again and you might be just as unfortunate. A few more flights with BA and you might see a different side of fence!
Safe (vomit free) travels
But I wouldn’t go as far as your comments that BA are disgusting and the worst or filthiest airline, I understand if it’s a rash quick judgement in anger but I wouldn’t be so quick to rule out any airline on this one episode! Sadly it happens and due to all airlines wanting to maximise their fleet and keep fares low, turnaround times leave very very little time to do, well, very very little.
As has been mentioned if the previous culprit didn’t report it through embarrassment then for a cleaner to spot it in the short period or crew, it’s a challenge. I’m not defending or suggesting it can’t be spotted and dealt with but the constraints of short turnaround mean it’s unlikely.
I would give BA another go if the schedule suits you but otherwise wait another 5 years, try again and you might be just as unfortunate. A few more flights with BA and you might see a different side of fence!
Safe (vomit free) travels
Aug 16, 2019, 9:38 am
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Adding the word "Fact:" in front of your opinion doesn't make it factual.
Aug 16, 2019, 10:01 am
#20
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Not sure just how productive / useful it is to debate which airlines score higher in the filth stakes. Hardly the sort of league table you want to feature in at all !
Nor do I believe that low fares and an acceptable state of cabin / seat cleanliness should be mutually exclusive. People are entitled to expect certain minimum standards of hygiene from a business which takes their money.
The OP’s approach and language may not have won universal sympathy from others here ; but in reality it would be pointless to deny that BA do have ‘form’ where aircraft prep & cleaning standards are concerned - including those for longhaul aircraft - as we all know from many past threads devoted to the subject. Even BA management have admitted as much.
Nor do I believe that low fares and an acceptable state of cabin / seat cleanliness should be mutually exclusive. People are entitled to expect certain minimum standards of hygiene from a business which takes their money.
The OP’s approach and language may not have won universal sympathy from others here ; but in reality it would be pointless to deny that BA do have ‘form’ where aircraft prep & cleaning standards are concerned - including those for longhaul aircraft - as we all know from many past threads devoted to the subject. Even BA management have admitted as much.
Aug 16, 2019, 10:35 am
#21
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The incident is clearly not acceptable and I get we can only comment based on our experiences, but stating that no other airline is as filthy as BA based on one experience isn't right.
A Google search will find similar incidents on several airlines.
A Google search will find similar incidents on several airlines.
Aug 16, 2019, 10:55 am
#22
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People do vomit planes.
Fortunately, I've not experienced vomit in a seat back pocket or on a seat belt on BA or any other airline. OP and others have, including BA and LH.
Personally, having flown Star Alliance for a significant number of years, there are definitely as dirty planes as BA.
OP has raised their point, stated they see no point in letting BA Customer Services know (personally, I'd type the detail in an email to BA rather than, with no disrespect, on Flyertalk), others have countered the points raised, there's clearly going to be no meeting of the minds so it's really end of thread.
I wonder how the A350 thread is doing today? Hopefully no one's thrown up onboard the new plane yet.
Fortunately, I've not experienced vomit in a seat back pocket or on a seat belt on BA or any other airline. OP and others have, including BA and LH.
Personally, having flown Star Alliance for a significant number of years, there are definitely as dirty planes as BA.
OP has raised their point, stated they see no point in letting BA Customer Services know (personally, I'd type the detail in an email to BA rather than, with no disrespect, on Flyertalk), others have countered the points raised, there's clearly going to be no meeting of the minds so it's really end of thread.
I wonder how the A350 thread is doing today? Hopefully no one's thrown up onboard the new plane yet.
Aug 16, 2019, 11:05 am
#23
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Let's just remember that it's people that make a mess on any plane, be it LH, BA, or some random dreaded LCCs, and aeroplanes don't usually go out of their way to make a mess within the cabin, and airlines generally try to avoid making a mess on their plane too (although they do seem to forget to clean the mess up from time to time) 
Aug 16, 2019, 11:15 am
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I do struggle a little with these types of discussions. I think without doubt cleanliness often starts at home and notwithstanding that people can become ill on board aircraft it can be said that on occasion the aircraft are not exactly treated that well by pax mixed in with very quick turnarounds, outsourced cleaning and lack of a quick check by CC. In the last weeks I like a few on this forum who have even taken pics have witnessed socks or bare feet on seats or bulkheads. People standing on seats in their shoes to reach overhead bins, litter just been dropped, chewing gum on arm rests and inside seat pockets, empty bottles not picked up under the tray middle seat in business, unclean loos. While I accept that cleanliness should start at home, ( we all know also how filthy the loos can be in first and other lounges at LHR) the airline and their staff should.be able to ensure that the aircraft is at least given a relatively thorough check prior to boarding for any next sector.
Aug 16, 2019, 12:04 pm
#26
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the BA board cracks me up.
if you criticize BA then about 20 folks will read though your whole history of posts and then will give a psychotic assessment claiming you are some sort of sociopath.
then they ll always claims it happens on other airlines. Guaranteed. Had i written that whilst i was smiling at the purser he suddenly became bersek and stabbed me in the arm someonw would have said: funny that just happened to me the other than on singapore airlines. Happens all the time. Yeah right.
do yourself a huge favor and try other airlines. None, none is as filthy as BA.
Oh and then one EZY plane was pretty bad the other day as well but then another was amazing. As for AF pretty piss poor the 3 times I had to use them last year.
Aug 16, 2019, 12:18 pm
#27
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I generally only fly on Oneworld airlines and mainly on BA.
I have to agree that BA planes are the filthiest I have experienced. Even on a wide body out of LHR, crumbs on the seat, debris on the carpet, fluid stains (hopefully drinks) in all sorts of places.
Ive never experienced these problems on QR or CX. I can’t remember anything other than spotless aircraft on QR.
In my opinion it does dampen the BA experience.
I have to agree that BA planes are the filthiest I have experienced. Even on a wide body out of LHR, crumbs on the seat, debris on the carpet, fluid stains (hopefully drinks) in all sorts of places.
Ive never experienced these problems on QR or CX. I can’t remember anything other than spotless aircraft on QR.
In my opinion it does dampen the BA experience.
Aug 16, 2019, 1:35 pm
#28
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I am afraid this forum won’t support you in your aim to get 20000 bonus avios or £1000 compensation, especially as you got reassigned to a different seat.
(I know since the United doc it’s obviously worth a try)
Simply book a different airline and spare us such overly dramatic posts. Come back to us when you have to sit in vomit from LAX-LHR on BA.
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(I know since the United doc it’s obviously worth a try)
Simply book a different airline and spare us such overly dramatic posts. Come back to us when you have to sit in vomit from LAX-LHR on BA.
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Aug 16, 2019, 3:02 pm
#29
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It shouldn't be up to the passenger to point out to the flight crew that there are vomit stains in their seat area and seat belt.
Surely the FAs on the previous flight were aware that someone threw up on the plane?
Surely the FAs on the previous flight were aware that someone threw up on the plane?
Aug 16, 2019, 3:39 pm
#30
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No and no. Crew or even passengers can be oblivious to anyone that does anything sometimes! That exists in all walks of life. Passengers are more aware of the details of their seat than any crew or cleaner. Mostly because the passenger has a strong reason and incentive to do so.
