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29 July 19: BA112 [JFK-LHR] incident in F cabin

29 July 19: BA112 [JFK-LHR] incident in F cabin

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At least 3 FlyerTalkers were onboard and have posted eyewitness reports. Excerpts and direct links follow

All reports implicate a musical artist/rapper named Busta Rhymes.

Originally Posted by 87CTA View Post
  • Artist boards and his handler begins packing away his bags in the overheads. To note … the artist brought 4 carryon bags … which meant regardless of the situation that he would have struggled to easily find space (especially as the cabin was full). It was apparent that the handler was having trouble finding space and the artist began getting irate … asking “whose stuff is this” … my wife replied, “mine” … artist responds “move your stuff”.
  • I could tell immediately that this would only end in an argument so I suggested to my wife that she just move her bags to avoid confrontation … my wife quite rightfully responded “why should I, we are supposed to share this bin” … this is when the artist flew off the handle: “move your stuff, now” … he was towering over my wife’s seat and she was terrified … I stood up and asked him to “not be so rude to my wife” and to “leave it” to which he responded with “then let’s go, homeboy … essentially offering me to fight him!!!!
Originally Posted by 81romeo View Post
A woman started to cry and the situation escalated very quickly. I then jumped in as I can't tolerate any case of abusive behaviour. He threatened me personally because I jumped in. The CSD got involved. The Captain decided to not offload him (don't ask me why because we really don't know, we were all shocked at his judgment call). Instead, the crew asked if any of us would feel safer by taking the next flight.
Originally Posted by Realitycheck View Post
The cabin staff did an excellent job at controlling the situation. Albeit they admitted being fearful as we all were. BR was traveling with his handler and 6 members of his entourage.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:13 am
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Yeah, I don't get the point in not saying who this person is.

By trying to protect this idiot, you are actually implicating many, many others though forum speculation.

Whereas the OP or the person in 1A can categorically confirm who this person is, thus removing any innocent people from the picture.

Nobody is pawfect but this person should have been removed. BA need to heavily compensate the fellow travellers.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:14 am
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What’s the deal with rappers and their inability to behave?
I think they believe that they have reputations to live up (or rather down) to.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by RoyalSwazi View Post
What’s the deal with rappers and their inability to behave? I know there are certain luxury brands who have had their image tarnished through the fact some undesirable characters show off their products in lyrics & music videos.

Not a rapper, but a few years ago a notorious gang leader in Oslo bought a Ferrari. To avoid being associated with him or his lifestyle, the dealer ended up buying back the vehicle for a higher(!) price than they had sold it for. Perhaps BA should consider paying these morons not to fly them?
Didn't Rolls-Royce (the car brand) use to sell only to handpicked buyers? That was in pre-BMW days, of course.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:22 am
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I have now had it confirmed by two separate sources that the individual in question was indeed Busta Rhymes. He was on his way to this......maybe that’s why he didn’t get offloaded. He was due on stage in Mykonos this afternoon.

https://santannamykonos.com/parties/busta-rhymes
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:26 am
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maybe that’s why he didn’t get offloaded.
So having an engagement at the other end is reason enough? Doesn't sound very plausible.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:26 am
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So what? He should have scheduled himself to arrive the day before the performance, like one would do for a cruise departure.

However, if he paid FULL IFC price, last ticket availability for a last minute ticket I can see how BA might be reluctant to offload him, lose all that money, and get some bad PR too for causing the "concert" to be cancelled.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:28 am
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i thought people were just going to keep giving their own 50 Cents and we would never find out.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by HFHFFlyer View Post
I have now had it confirmed by two separate sources that the individual in question was indeed Busta Rhymes. He was on his way to this......maybe that’s why he didn’t get offloaded. He was due on stage in Mykonos this afternoon.

https://santannamykonos.com/parties/busta-rhymes
Thank you for confirming!
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by HFHFFlyer View Post
I have now had it confirmed by two separate sources that the individual in question was indeed Busta Rhymes. He was on his way to this......maybe that’s why he didn’t get offloaded. He was due on stage in Mykonos this afternoon.

https://santannamykonos.com/parties/busta-rhymes
Well if this is the reason I would be even more shocked - but I guess it could be the reason.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by HFHFFlyer View Post
I have now had it confirmed by two separate sources that the individual in question was indeed Busta Rhymes. He was on his way to this......maybe that’s why he didn’t get offloaded. He was due on stage in Mykonos this afternoon.

https://santannamykonos.com/parties/busta-rhymes
From BA112 to BA650 that only leave 70 minutes.
Do we know if he made the connection while getting fired up with the police?
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:40 am
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From BA112 to BA650 that only leave 70 minutes.
Do we know if he made the connection while getting fired up with the police?
Maybe they were star struck and just escorted him to the gate.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:45 am
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The passenger on Twitter apparently missed his connection to the same flight due to the incident. But assuming he was released within a couple of hours, he could presumably have got a helicopter from Athens or a private jet.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:56 am
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I'm pretty shocked the captain decided to allow this individual to travel.

It's strange that it was the innocent passengers that were given the option to travel alongside this individual or be offloaded.

It sounds like the captain didn't want to be responsible or deal with the potential consequences for not allowing this passenger to travel... Very worrying.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:57 am
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According to Twitter someone he was in Paris getting a flight an hour or 2 ago
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Old Jul 30, 19, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by RoyalSwazi View Post
What’s the deal with rappers and their inability to behave? I know there are certain luxury brands who have had their image tarnished through the fact some undesirable characters show off their products in lyrics & music videos.

Not a rapper, but a few years ago a notorious gang leader in Oslo bought a Ferrari. To avoid being associated with him or his lifestyle, the dealer ended up buying back the vehicle for a higher(!) price than they had sold it for. Perhaps BA should consider paying these morons not to fly them?
Have you any information that rappers behave any worse than other musicians or indeed the general public at large on a aircraft?

As for the comparison between a rapper and a gang leader....bit of a heroic leap no?
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