Euro Traveller passengers using the Club Europe toilets?
#106
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Are you actually, genuinely for real? I really hope this is a horribly frugal attempt to be funny. If it was it didn't really work in IMO. I am very lucky to be able to fly in Club and sometimes First. It is a very comfortable way to fly. But when push comes to shove, we are all HUMAN BEINGS on the same tin can going to the same place, and we all have human needs. If there is an urgent need for a passenger to use a restroom on an aircraft then, God forbid for you, it might have to be the one in the cabin that they are not ticketed in and I am fine with that, as I'm sure the crew and other passengers would be fine with that too given the alternative option.
Your inferrence that any Euro Traveller passenger is 'cheap skating' is simply rude, I fly Euro Traveller on point to point in Europe when the Club upgrade isn't worth it for what I'm getting. Perhaps instead we should get the BoB trolley pushed passed you in Club Europe so that you can see what you could have bought from it for the price you paid to upgrade?
Your inferrence that any Euro Traveller passenger is 'cheap skating' is simply rude, I fly Euro Traveller on point to point in Europe when the Club upgrade isn't worth it for what I'm getting. Perhaps instead we should get the BoB trolley pushed passed you in Club Europe so that you can see what you could have bought from it for the price you paid to upgrade?
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Where does it say on any toilet on BA aircraft “this toilet is reserved exclusively for First/Club World/Club Europe passengers, etc? In the not too distant past BA used a rope in front of the curtains between cabins with very clear signs such as “First class passengers only beyond this point” . If anyone can categorically show that the front toilets of Airbus frames are signposted as Club Europe only, we have every cause to question free for all use. Equally I have never heard any announcement to tell passengers that those seated in Y must use the rear toilets only. I suspect passengers are at liberty to use any toilet they wish.
#110
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Those who paid a substantially higher fare should not be inconvenienced by those who did not. Those with an "urgent need" should plea their case with the cabin crew working the BoB. It's a movable cart not an insurmountable wall. Those in the back with specific medical afflictions requiring greater lav access should select seats in close proximity to the lavs to reduce any potential obstructions.
FWIW, referring to people in Economy as 'steerage' and 'gate-lice' says a lot more about the people who use those terms that it does the people they are aiming it at.
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I am a big user of CE and of ET.
I always just use the closest toilet. Often the aisle is blocked with the crew trying to flog the cr@ppy M&S wares.
In CE, I really do not have any issue with ET passengers using the toilet. Those that do need to get a life.
If the only benefit for CE is access to a toilet, then they do need to look at the value proposition....
I always just use the closest toilet. Often the aisle is blocked with the crew trying to flog the cr@ppy M&S wares.
In CE, I really do not have any issue with ET passengers using the toilet. Those that do need to get a life.
If the only benefit for CE is access to a toilet, then they do need to look at the value proposition....
Last edited by WingsAroundtheWorld; Jul 8, 2019 at 10:53 am
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MrTemporal, much of what you say is fair ... but then this Forum does exhibt a bit of British ‘bawdy humour’, so I let it pass me by.
But, in my accustomed CE location in 1C, I can assure you that the gathering by my choulder can be extremely irritating.
Oh, and as a footnote ... yes, Economy pax do indeed use CE lockers as they make their way towards the back. I had that in Row 1 last week, fortunately after we’d stowed our bags.
But, in my accustomed CE location in 1C, I can assure you that the gathering by my choulder can be extremely irritating.
Oh, and as a footnote ... yes, Economy pax do indeed use CE lockers as they make their way towards the back. I had that in Row 1 last week, fortunately after we’d stowed our bags.
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I suspect that those who say "move the BOB trolley" have not flown on BA in the last few years.
Moving the BOB trolley for the slf wanting the loo is as likely as BA restoring free food and drinks.
As I said above, I was told off for having the temerity to ask!!
Moving the BOB trolley for the slf wanting the loo is as likely as BA restoring free food and drinks.
As I said above, I was told off for having the temerity to ask!!
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I suspect that those who say "move the BOB trolley" have not flown on BA in the last few years.
Moving the BOB trolley for the slf wanting the loo is as likely as BA restoring free food and drinks.
As I said above, I was told off for having the temerity to ask!!
Moving the BOB trolley for the slf wanting the loo is as likely as BA restoring free food and drinks.
As I said above, I was told off for having the temerity to ask!!
i have yet to be challenged by crew who in my view are as indifferent to this issue as they are to the job they have to do generally.
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As for the tem “Gate Lice”, this is independent of travel class, and is simply an umbrella term to describe people with a sense of entitlement greater than reality. I personally would not use the term myself, however it does provide clarity as to the character of the persons being described.
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Total nightmare on the increasing number of Gatwick birds with 'broken dividers'. Euro traveller pax - understandably - have no reason to think that they can't troll up to the front of the cabin (and queue). The broken dividers are so popular at Gatwick (and appear to take months to repair) because I've been shown the email by a CSM mid-air. There were 5 or 6 when I flew last month. Some taking months to have it restored....
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