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FoxtrotOscar Jun 14, 2019 10:08 am

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While there’s definitely been a noticeable uplift in BA’s food offerings, there remains one big issue.

Insipid, fatty bacon.

Who’s up for some customer lobbying for crispier bacon? If it’s possible to routinely cook a fillet of beef to within an inch of its life....

T8191 Jun 14, 2019 10:27 am

I like crispy [streaky] bacon and rare steak, so I’m on your team.

BUT ... what do the majority of BA’s pax prefer? Don’t they scream if there’s blood on the plate, or howl that their rasher of bacon has been ruined?

Neat Thread title, BTW ;)

missdimeaner Jun 14, 2019 10:43 am

BA just misunderstood-
Soggy Bacon
Crispy (cremated) Steak
I’m a fan of the fatty crisp American style bacon which pings off the plate if you try and cut it.
’Passenger sues BA for bacon injury’ ;)

Mordac Jun 14, 2019 10:49 am


Originally Posted by T8191 (Post 31202755)
I like crispy [streaky] bacon and rare steak, so I’m on your team.

BUT ... what do the majority of BA’s pax prefer? Don’t they scream if there’s blood on the plate, or howl that their rasher of bacon has been ruined?

Neat Thread title, BTW ;)

I'd love some black pudding myself!

T8191 Jun 14, 2019 10:53 am


Originally Posted by Mordac (Post 31202826)
I'd love some black pudding myself!

Agreed, but again that’s probably at the far end of the bell-curve. Sadly, BA caters for the majority who like over-cooked steaks and barely-cooked bacon without exotic additions,

Geordie405 Jun 14, 2019 11:03 am

As someone who lives in the US where the choices tend to be the streaky / crispy bacon or else Canadian bacon (think ham for those who don't know what I mean) one of the pleasures of coming back to the UK is the ability to have "proper" bacon! That said, I definitely do like it cooked to the point where the fat is crispy but the meat is still tender. The BA breakfast bacon doesn't quite hit the spot when it comes to that - it definitely needs a bit longer under the grill.

Geo772 Jun 14, 2019 11:25 am

I think I must be one of those who appreciates all facets of bacon. From bacon as a seasoning (think bacon bits on a potato), to american extra crispy streaky bacon to BA bacon to how I cook it myself. In my view it is all good. Even the canteen at work can't dull my enthusiasm for bacon!

DeathSlam Jun 14, 2019 11:26 am

My understanding is that food on a plane is cooked by convection (steam) rather than radiation for safety reasons.
That makes 'crisping' something that needs extra technology to pull off.
You could either reheat pre-crisped bacon (thus losing the crisp) or use a bacon crisping device and a microwave (unlikely as it needs extra kit).

tigertanaka Jun 14, 2019 12:09 pm

Are we talking in flight bacon or lounge bacon? I am a big fan of the GF cooked breakfast buffet, a big factor in my attempt to retain gold this year.

In flight bacon is undercooked IMO.

T8191 Jun 14, 2019 12:21 pm

#BaconTalk.com ;)

PAL62V Jun 14, 2019 12:28 pm

This is definitely a pig deal. Good quality bacon should not be rasher-ned. To say it can't be done would be telling porkies.

T8191 Jun 14, 2019 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by PAL62V (Post 31203176)
This is definitely a pig deal. Good quality bacon should not be rasher-ned. To say it can't be done would be telling porkies.

You streaked past the back of the pack there. Chop-chop the rest of you, or you'll get a grilling at the finish line.

kanderson1965 Jun 14, 2019 1:17 pm

Proper British back bacon please, non of the US style streaky rubbish, which is all fat snd no meat.

T8191 Jun 14, 2019 1:23 pm

This is clearly a Fry-day Thread.

And the fat should run, not sit there attached to the meat. ;)

TTmex Jun 14, 2019 1:33 pm

Hopefully enough feedback will cure the problem. ;)
I like my bacon with the meat slightly thick and salty and the fat cooked extra under the grill.

Geordie405 Jun 14, 2019 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by kanderson1965 (Post 31203321)
Proper British back bacon please, non of the US style streaky rubbish, which is all fat snd no meat.

Not necessarily! It depends where you get it from. Our local supermarket has upped its game recently and their bacon is now a lot leaner than it used to be. Sprouts also has some decent bacon. That said, we have had some where I struggled to find any lean meat amongst the fat.

Greenpen Jun 14, 2019 4:00 pm

Bacon needs to be dry cured but even when this type of preparation is sold to you, it often leaks that white stuff.

The BA lounge bacon roll is rubbish.

Scrudgy Jun 14, 2019 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by FoxtrotOscar (Post 31202694)
While there’s definitely been a noticeable uplift in BA’s food offerings, there remains one big issue.

Insipid, fatty bacon.

Who’s up for some customer lobbying for crispier bacon? If it’s possible to routinely cook a fillet of beef to within an inch of its life....

Count me in. I can enjoy almost all bacon, whilst I prefer crispy, and can take fatty too. But BA slimy - NO!

Fix it or replace it with something else.

RGS5526 Jun 14, 2019 7:05 pm


Agreed, but again that’s probably at the far end of the bell-curve. Sadly, BA caters for the majority who like over-cooked steaks and barely-cooked bacon without exotic additions,
What is exotic about black pudding?

I prefer medium done back bacon to streaky, but if it has to be streaky then most of the fat should be grilled out of it.

But what I would really like would be the return of the full breakfast that was served between GLA and LHR, back in the days when gthe ride was on a Vanguard.

alex67500 Jun 14, 2019 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Greenpen (Post 31203715)
The BA lounge bacon roll is rubbish.

I've found them to be pretty sad indeed. That in-flight bacon can't be perfect, I understand, but in the lounges there are no excuses!

Tobias-UK Jun 14, 2019 8:23 pm


Originally Posted by Geordie405 (Post 31203694)
Not necessarily! It depends where you get it from. Our local supermarket has upped its game recently and their bacon is now a lot leaner than it used to be...

Which one?

Jagboi Jun 14, 2019 11:36 pm


Originally Posted by Geordie405 (Post 31202870)
As someone who lives in the US where the choices tend to be the streaky / crispy bacon or else Canadian bacon (think ham for those who don't know what I mean)

I'm always amused by the americanism of "Canadian bacon". Typical bacon in Canada is streaky bacon, the same as in the USA. If you go to a grocery store in Canada and look for "Canadian bacon" you won't find any such thing. There is back bacon, which is sort of like the leanest part of UK bacon, and a few specialist butchers cut UK style bacon, but it is very expensive.

DeathSlam Jun 15, 2019 1:51 am


Originally Posted by alex67500 (Post 31204167)
I've found them to be pretty sad indeed. That in-flight bacon can't be perfect, I understand, but in the lounges there are no excuses!

In MAN there seems to be no bacon roll option in the BA lounge, so I go the T3 Escape lounge for a perfect bacon bap then return to the quieter BA lounge and perhaps some fizz. If a priority pass lounge can offer a good quality bacon sandwich I don't understand why BA can't (even when it is available).

squawk Jun 15, 2019 3:47 am

Skimming the forum, and the capitalisation of the thread title subconsciously made me think of sheep rather than pigs... I can’t be the only one? :D

SteveF Jun 15, 2019 5:08 am


Originally Posted by Greenpen (Post 31203715)
Bacon needs to be dry cured but even when this type of preparation is sold to you, it often leaks that white stuff.



Isn't the white stuff emulsified water? It seems to be typical of cheap supermarket bacon.

rockflyertalk Jun 15, 2019 6:48 am

I’ll have crispy or well done bacon please 🙋🏼.♂️

FoxtrotOscar Jun 15, 2019 7:41 am


Originally Posted by tigertanaka (Post 31203112)
Are we talking in flight bacon or lounge bacon? I am a big fan of the GF cooked breakfast buffet, a big factor in my attempt to retain gold this year.

In flight bacon is undercooked IMO.

I was referring to both. I find the lounge bacon almost as bad as the in flight.

kanderson1965 Jun 15, 2019 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by DeathSlam (Post 31204653)
In MAN there seems to be no bacon roll option in the BA lounge, so I go the T3 Escape lounge for a perfect bacon bap then return to the quieter BA lounge and perhaps some fizz. If a priority pass lounge can offer a good quality bacon sandwich I don't understand why BA can't (even when it is available).

Unfortunately the best bacon rolls are at LBA, it’s insufficient BA flight that is the problem there.

tigertanaka Jun 15, 2019 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by DeathSlam (Post 31204653)
In MAN there seems to be no bacon roll option in the BA lounge, so I go the T3 Escape lounge for a perfect bacon bap then return to the quieter BA lounge and perhaps some fizz. If a priority pass lounge can offer a good quality bacon sandwich I don't understand why BA can't (even when it is available).

No bacon rolls in the NCL lounge either. The ultimate evidence of London Airways.


Originally Posted by kanderson1965 (Post 31206026)

Unfortunately the best bacon rolls are at LBA, it’s insufficient BA flight that is the problem there.

Don't you have to make up your own breakfast roll in the new LBA lounge?

Greenpen Jun 15, 2019 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by SteveF (Post 31204880)
Isn't the white stuff emulsified water? It seems to be typical of cheap supermarket bacon.


It is emulsified something. Waitrose is such a rubbish supermarket but sometime I am force to top up the pantry there if it’s the housekeeper’s day off.

AlanA Jun 15, 2019 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by FoxtrotOscar (Post 31202694)
While there’s definitely been a noticeable uplift in BA’s food offerings, there remains one big issue.

Insipid, fatty bacon.

Who’s up for some customer lobbying for crispier bacon? If it’s possible to routinely cook a fillet of beef to within an inch of its life....

NOOOOOOOO! I HATE Crispy Bacon, it’s like eating charcoal and cardboard

TownCar Jun 15, 2019 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by tigertanaka (Post 31206119)
No bacon rolls in the NCL lounge either. The ultimate evidence of London Airways.

I was going to add, what are these lounge bacon rolls people speak of? It's either croissants, porridge, bruised bananas or kettle crisps for me in the mornings.

Given the pax/space ratio in the NCL lounge you'd think they could do better - especially given how status-heavy the route sometimes seems to be (appeared to be more group 1s than 2/3s on some recent hops).

JAXBA Jun 17, 2019 8:56 am

This works well for cooking American streaky bacon, I haven't got to test it yet with real back bacon.


Geordie405 Jun 17, 2019 9:39 am


Originally Posted by Tobias-UK (Post 31204214)
Which one?

The Albertsons at Warm Springs and Rainbow. That said, the Sprouts on the opposite side of Rainbow is still much better and more consistent with its bacon.

Geordie405 Jun 17, 2019 9:45 am


Originally Posted by TownCar (Post 31206843)
I was going to add, what are these lounge bacon rolls people speak of? It's either croissants, porridge, bruised bananas or kettle crisps for me in the mornings.

Given the pax/space ratio in the NCL lounge you'd think they could do better - especially given how status-heavy the route sometimes seems to be (appeared to be more group 1s than 2/3s on some recent hops).

I agree with this. I really do wish that the NCL lounge could do something more substantial in the mornings. I have started visiting the Aspire lounge instead where I can get a sausage sandwich etc. when I am on an early flight. They have a pretty decent hot food offering in the morning (the only time I have visited so far, so no idea what is served up for lunch or tea) and I am rather partial to a sausage stottie (although the floured bap isn't a proper Greggs stottie unfortunately - a bigger shame as there's a Greggs at NCL).


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