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LHR/LGW pilots (BALPA) industrial action 9 Sep, 10 Sep, and 27 Sep

LHR/LGW pilots (BALPA) industrial action 9 Sep, 10 Sep, and 27 Sep

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Help! What do I do now?
Most importantly, don't panic and don't do anything in haste. Read these FAQ. Read the thread, particularly the posts starting from the time that the strike dates were announced. Identify your options. Think about what works for you. Then take action. If you do anything in haste, you may have thrown away good options, or you may have thrown away money that you needn't have spent.

NOTE: Some emails have been sent out by mistake notifying the cancellation of flights on 8 September and other dates. If your booking still looks OK in MMB then you don't need to take further action. A cancelled flight should be shown in MMB with struck-through text. If your flight details are not struck through, then it probably hasn't actually been cancelled. You could check ba.com to see whether BA is still taking reservations for the flight in question. If so, then the flight has not been cancelled. You may also try checking on ExpertFlyer, if you have access, to see whether your flight appears still to be operating and whether BA is still taking reservations. However, some afternoon/evening flights on 8 September have genuinely been cancelled. See main thread for details.

Has a strike been called yet?
Yes. BALPA, the pilots' union, has voted in favour of strike action, and the Court of Appeal has rejected BA's submission to have the poll set aside, so the legal process is now over. The two parties went back into talks after the legal proceedings and those talks were expected to continue into the week of 5 August.

BALPA on 23 Aug announced strikes on Monday 9 September Tuesday 10 September and Friday 27 September.

Any further strikes normally require 2 weeks notice under UK legislation.

What flights may be affected?
LHR and LGW based flights. Not LCY or STN flights. Both cabin and flight crew are in dispute with BA, but the pilots (captains, senior first officers, first officers) are closest to strike action.

How long would a strike last?
The initial strikes are for two days the a single day, with normal working in between. Any other strikes could be of any length. It would be rare in the UK for there to be a full time strike.

What would happen to my flights if it is a strike day?
A range of options have been announced, see post 1551 below for more information: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post31451055

and BA Trade Site guidance here: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...kba?faqid=7594

Rebooking is now allowed on Iberia, AA, Finnair, JAL and Qatar. Within Europe EI and Vueling are also allowed. This is for both revenue and redemption flights.

and the FAQ on BA.com here (this includes information on BA Holidays bookings which are substantially different): https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...st-information

Can I do anything with an existing booking now?
Yes. Your options are different depending on whether your flights are currently showing as cancelled or not. See the links above.

What about Heathrow staff - aren't their strikes planned there too?
Yes there is a separate dispute at the moment between Heathrow Airport (HAL) and their staff such as those who operate the security checkpoints. See the separate thread on the issue.

Am I protected by EC261 if there is a problem?
You are always covered by the Right to Care provisions of Regulation EC261. You could potentially be able to claim compensation for delays, cancellations and downgrades caused by BA staff action too, but not for HAL strikes (for cancellations only if there is flight is less than 14 day’s notice). See the main EC261 thread in the BA Forum Dashboard.
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Old Jun 14, 19, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
The FCO advises against travel to the 'Stans, tribal and the periphery of Pakistan, it advises against all but essential travel to places like Quetta and parts of Sindh. However there is no advice against travel to Islamabad or the area around it, which I visited recently and is safe for Westerners to walk or cycle around.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/pakistan
Seriously!?!?!? Business or pleasure?

Either way the staff are not happy about the situation and I would just hope BA put on an armed escort getting them to and from the hotel and the hotel is fully protected.
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Old Jun 14, 19, 6:08 pm
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All the discussion here seems to be about a potential strike only affecting LGW. But there seems to be nothing about the rest of the BA pilots who last week rejected BA's offer and are planning a strike vote. That would disrupt more than just LGW flights.
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Old Jun 15, 19, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by Waterhorse View Post


It has been raised by many in the places where it matters. It has been raised vociferously and at the highest levels. Pilots and crew have raised their concerns where it is apt.
Have fun if you get stuck in the Pearl Continental hotel. Stay away from window seats in the restaurant. In the old days if you could get your Doctor to register you as an acoholic, you could get beer on room service. You needed to show a Doctors letter on check in.
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Old Jun 15, 19, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by rapidex View Post
Have fun if you get stuck in the Pearl Continental hotel. Stay away from window seats in the restaurant. In the old days if you could get your Doctor to register you as an acoholic, you could get beer on room service. You needed to show a Doctors letter on check in.
In the Marriott beer is freely available in the sports bar, or room service, 800 rupees a tinnie, about £4. Which is regarded as very expensive there.
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Old Jun 15, 19, 4:49 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
In the Marriott beer is freely available in the sports bar, or room service, 800 rupees a tinnie, about £4. Which is regarded as very expensive there.
About time things changed for the better.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 7:55 am
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BA Pilots Strike?

Head for points just reported that BALPA have given BA 7 days notice of intention to hold strike ballot
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:02 am
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I expect the cabin crew union BASSA to also be balloting shortly.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:02 am
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FML. Thank you so much.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:04 am
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All unions have rejected an 11.5% pay rise over 3 years:
4% Year 1
3.5% Year 2
4% Year 3
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:09 am
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This only going to affect LGW or LHR also?
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:11 am
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Both bases.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:26 am
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Strike ballot taking place in the run up to the school holidays. Coincidence? I think not.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:27 am
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If they’re balloting in 7 days, how soon would any strike likely to be?
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell View Post
If they’re balloting in 7 days, how soon would any strike likely to be?
Probably just in time for the start of the school holidays. I'm sure that's the aim anyway.
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Old Jun 19, 19, 8:44 am
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Swell. Due to fly to US on 3rd July
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