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LHR/LGW pilots (BALPA) industrial action 9 Sep, 10 Sep, and 27 Sep

LHR/LGW pilots (BALPA) industrial action 9 Sep, 10 Sep, and 27 Sep

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Help! What do I do now?
Most importantly, don't panic and don't do anything in haste. Read these FAQ. Read the thread, particularly the posts starting from the time that the strike dates were announced. Identify your options. Think about what works for you. Then take action. If you do anything in haste, you may have thrown away good options, or you may have thrown away money that you needn't have spent.

NOTE: Some emails have been sent out by mistake notifying the cancellation of flights on 8 September and other dates. If your booking still looks OK in MMB then you don't need to take further action. A cancelled flight should be shown in MMB with struck-through text. If your flight details are not struck through, then it probably hasn't actually been cancelled. You could check ba.com to see whether BA is still taking reservations for the flight in question. If so, then the flight has not been cancelled. You may also try checking on ExpertFlyer, if you have access, to see whether your flight appears still to be operating and whether BA is still taking reservations. However, some afternoon/evening flights on 8 September have genuinely been cancelled. See main thread for details.

Has a strike been called yet?
Yes. BALPA, the pilots' union, has voted in favour of strike action, and the Court of Appeal has rejected BA's submission to have the poll set aside, so the legal process is now over. The two parties went back into talks after the legal proceedings and those talks were expected to continue into the week of 5 August.

BALPA on 23 Aug announced strikes on Monday 9 September Tuesday 10 September and Friday 27 September.

Any further strikes normally require 2 weeks notice under UK legislation.

What flights may be affected?
LHR and LGW based flights. Not LCY or STN flights. Both cabin and flight crew are in dispute with BA, but the pilots (captains, senior first officers, first officers) are closest to strike action.

How long would a strike last?
The initial strikes are for two days the a single day, with normal working in between. Any other strikes could be of any length. It would be rare in the UK for there to be a full time strike.

What would happen to my flights if it is a strike day?
A range of options have been announced, see post 1551 below for more information: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post31451055

and BA Trade Site guidance here: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...kba?faqid=7594

Rebooking is now allowed on Iberia, AA, Finnair, JAL and Qatar. Within Europe EI and Vueling are also allowed. This is for both revenue and redemption flights.

and the FAQ on BA.com here (this includes information on BA Holidays bookings which are substantially different): https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...st-information

Can I do anything with an existing booking now?
Yes. Your options are different depending on whether your flights are currently showing as cancelled or not. See the links above.

What about Heathrow staff - aren't their strikes planned there too?
Yes there is a separate dispute at the moment between Heathrow Airport (HAL) and their staff such as those who operate the security checkpoints. See the separate thread on the issue.

Am I protected by EC261 if there is a problem?
You are always covered by the Right to Care provisions of Regulation EC261. You could potentially be able to claim compensation for delays, cancellations and downgrades caused by BA staff action too, but not for HAL strikes (for cancellations only if there is flight is less than 14 dayís notice). See the main EC261 thread in the BA Forum Dashboard.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you View Post
No I cannot say and itís only a rumour at the moment, if I hear more I will come back to this thread.
news tomorrow/Friday
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Old Oct 31, 19, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by DFB_london View Post
news tomorrow/Friday
tease. Anything we can do to make you spill sooner, give hints etc.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by lorcancoyle View Post
tease. Anything we can do to make you spill sooner, give hints etc.
What partly worked last time was people finding days that were consistently zeroed out or only full fare on BA for all destinations. If anyone feels like sleuthing...
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Old Oct 31, 19, 7:22 am
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Iím sure there must be a number of us getting slightly queasy every time this thread pops to the top of the forum.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by krispy84 View Post
Iím sure there must be a number of us getting slightly queasy every time this thread pops to the top of the forum.
* I really hope it doesn't go on as long as Brexit!


* I know the ballot to strike is only valid until January (or thereabouts, cant remember the exact date)
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Old Oct 31, 19, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by krispy84 View Post
Iím sure there must be a number of us getting slightly queasy every time this thread pops to the top of the forum.
Indeed - I wish people would only post here when there is significant news, preferably the news that the dispute is resolved!
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Old Oct 31, 19, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
What partly worked last time was people finding days that were consistently zeroed out or only full fare on BA for all destinations. If anyone feels like sleuthing...
Maybe itíll be positive news though so that tactic wonít work.

I saw on Twitter today that Walsh is confident it will be resolved soon.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 8:55 am
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The BALPA reps are reported to be keeping everything very close. Most of the pilots, I am told, have no current ideas about likely outcomes. Their complaints about scheduling, and losing out in the past, have not gone away.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 9:01 am
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Are we thinking that strike dates are being announced tomorrow or just an update on the situation. Iím flying 14th which in theory would be outside the 2 week window but last time BA cancelled flights the day before if I recall correctly?
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Old Oct 31, 19, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by BAeuro View Post
Maybe itíll be positive news though so that tactic wonít work.

I saw on Twitter today that Walsh is confident it will be resolved soon.
Perhaps Walsh has got tired of this, and told Cruz to sort pit out? OK, Iím an optimist!
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Old Oct 31, 19, 9:21 am
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I'm hoping the recent silence from both sides means better news will be released soon.I have family booked to fly over here in a few weeks time. Last I spoke to them they were feeling very uneasy about it all so I wouldn't be at all surprised if they decide just to cancel and leave it for another time. If I was in their shoes I would.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
Perhaps Walsh has got tired of this, and told Cruz to sort it out? OK, Iím an optimist!
Well if you believe the (somewhat convoluted) comments as reported in the Guardian piece linked in my post this morning, he (Walsh) would have it all sorted by now.

Though of course thatís IF you believe him ..... !
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Old Oct 31, 19, 10:32 am
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Any idea on when refunds are going to be paid?

My mother (based in US on a US purchased ticket) has been waiting for over two months for the whole of her refund to be paid. Neither she nor I have been able to speak to anyone at Customer Care in the US or UK as every time we try telephoning we receive a recorded message refering us to the website, which isn't any help.

Does anyone have a suggestion of how to proceed with getting her money back? We've filled in online forms and emailed and have received nothing in return. I contacted BA through the Executive Club line and they just refered me back to Customer Care. I've suggested she contact her credit card company, but it really shouldn't be this hard as BA offered the refund on her cancelled flights and she accepted.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
Perhaps Walsh has got tired of this, and told Cruz to sort pit out? OK, Iím an optimist!
Good cop, bad cop play.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by bookish View Post
Any idea on when refunds are going to be paid?

My mother (based in US on a US purchased ticket) has been waiting for over two months for the whole of her refund to be paid. Neither she nor I have been able to speak to anyone at Customer Care in the US or UK as every time we try telephoning we receive a recorded message refering us to the website, which isn't any help.

Does anyone have a suggestion of how to proceed with getting her money back? We've filled in online forms and emailed and have received nothing in return. I contacted BA through the Executive Club line and they just refered me back to Customer Care. I've suggested she contact her credit card company, but it really shouldn't be this hard as BA offered the refund on her cancelled flights and she accepted.
I'd contact the credit card company and let them deal with it. You paid for something which you haven't received and it really shouldn't take 8 weeks for a refund.

Let us know how you get on?
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