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*CANCELLED* BA100 : Heritage-liveried B747s on MAN/NCL/GLA rotations 25 Aug

*CANCELLED* BA100 : Heritage-liveried B747s on MAN/NCL/GLA rotations 25 Aug

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Dear

We're looking forward to welcoming you on board your flight with us from London Heathrow to Glasgow on 25 August.

We wanted to let you know that we'll be making a change to the aircraft operating your flight. Your flight will no longer be operated by a Boeing 747.

We understand that, after speculation on aviation websites, some of our customers booked on BA1482 hoping to be part of our birthday celebration. Weíll happily offer a full refund to anyone who no longer wishes to travel.

You'll be able to view the timing changes to your flight at ba.com/mmb in the next 24 hours.

If you would like to make a change to your booking, please contact us.

If you booked through a travel agent, please contact them to make any changes.
On Sunday 25 Aug - the day of BAs 100th birthday - BA are operating these domestic rotations with 747s, reportedly the three heritage-liveried aircraft :

NCL (seatmap shows a Mid-J 747) NOTE: 747 NOW APPARENTLY CANCELLED as of 07.06.2019
BA1326 LHR-NCL 0920-1035 (stop 2:05, MCT 0:30): aero404, george77300, jfallesen, Msm2000uk, peter h, Telecasterman,
BA1327 NCL-LHR 1240-1400: aero404, Bazza1603 x 3, Brighterside, Chris9642, corporate-wage-slave, Fontana, george77300, jfallesen, Msm2000uk, peter h, S_W_S, squawk, Telecasterman, WickedStepMother, VG31.

MAN (seatmap shows a Mid-J 747) NOTE: 747 NOW APPARENTLY CANCELLED as of 07.06.2019
BA1386 LHR-MAN 1010-1120 (stop 1:30, MCT 0:30): 81romeo
BA1391 MAN-LHR 1250-1400: 81romeo

GLA (seatmap shows a SuperHi-J 747) NOTE: 747 NOW APPARENTLY CANCELLED as of 07.06.2019
BA1482 LHR-GLA 1200-1330 (stop 1:30, MCT 0:30): bisonrav, IFE Wizard, McG, shl +1, Schwann, hodders
BA1487 GLA-LHR 1500-1625: bisonrav, IFE Wizard, shl +1, Schwann
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Old Jun 3, 19, 4:51 am
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No POUG for me (on a one way cash ticket LHR->GLA, returning on a J redemption, separate ticket). But I get the impression POUGs are less easy to get on one way tickets anyway.
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Old Jun 3, 19, 5:15 am
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Originally Posted by Brighterside View Post
Me too and decided to go with it - even though it probably means I won't get a window seat. I really don't expect upper deck to become available - should I phone up and see if I can book one of the seats that are still available?
I rang up to get a seat booked. No window seats left however. No harm getting a seat selected
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Old Jun 3, 19, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Welcome to FT NewcastleFlyer ^
Originally Posted by tigertanaka View Post
And a welcome from me too (although Iím not as nearly as frequent or as expert a poster as either CWS or KARFA).
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Welcome to Flyertalk and welcome to the BA forum NewcastleFlyer, it's good to see you here, we can never have too many NCL based FTers!
Welcome from me too, @NewcastleFlyer - there's plenty of us here on Tyneside

Originally Posted by NewcastleFlyer View Post
Yes. It will be weird and seen as the EK 77W will be in at the same time I'm curious as to where it'll park. Back in 2010 when G-CIVI flew in it parked weirdly on stands 7 and 8 while the emirates had stand 9.
I was thinking about this yesterday too. The 77W is a couple of metres longer than a 747-400, so in theory at least it could use that stand. But as they're there at the same time, I assume it'll be on a remote stand somewhere - like the photo posted by @G_CIVV from a few years back.

Given how little luggage and fuel is likely to be on board, performance should be pretty good on take off!

Having said that, it made me think about the logistics of a fully laden 747 (e.g. having been diverted) when taking off from NCL. The airport's latest Masterplan discusses the on-again, off-again plans for a runway extension (p35 onwards), and notes that Callerton Hill to the west of the airport is one of the reasons for this extension to reduce the trade offs which have to be made between range, fuel carried, and cargo/passenger load. There is an interesting indicative range map based on a 700m extension on p38 of the 80% performance of various aircraft.

I assume that even with a full plane of long haul holiday makers and baggage, the difference is that there is minimal fuel (and associated weight) needed to hop down to London, so taking off isn't an issue. By contrast operating a fully laden, fully-fueled 747 on a long haul route would simply not be feasible from NCL's current runway. But I am interested if anyone can supply a more detailed explanation/insider knowledge in relation to NCL!
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Old Jun 3, 19, 6:34 am
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I logged into Expert Flyer this morning and the flights to/from GLA were showing availability in CE again (J/C classes). I then logged into BA.com and was presented with availability of CE award redemptions for both LHR-GLA and GLA-LHR at 9,000 Avios and £25 per sector. But of course it wouldn't allow me to book it as a B2B on the website so I immediately called the Gold line but by the time I had got through the security questions the redemption seats had disappeared again. Fatest finger first fail...
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Old Jun 3, 19, 6:54 am
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You can book the rewards as two one ways online.

Technically you lose any protection but I see very little risk here - the turnarounds are 90 mins or more so I canít see you could miss it.
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
You can book the rewards as two one ways online.

Technically you lose any protection but I see very little risk here - the turnarounds are 90 mins or more so I canít see you could miss it.
Yeah, with hindsight I went for an over-engineered solution! So we are back to no availability (or close to) for these special flights, although the seat maps still show swathes of unallocated/blocked seats. We don't know whether/when more will be released for sale but it seems unlikely that all seats have in fact been sold already?
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:18 am
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Could somebody kindly add me to the wiki. Account is too new so not allowed to edit. :P On the NCL B2B.
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:23 am
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Could somebody kindly add me to the wiki. Account is too new so not allowed to edit. :P On the NCL B2B.
Done, and added myself too (NCL-LHR).
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by squawk View Post
Done, and added myself too (NCL-LHR).
At this rate we will end up with an hourly 747 service.
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:55 am
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The GLA-LHR flight (BA1487) isn't showing up at all when I search.. does this mean its sold out for now?
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by FliGuy View Post
The GLA-LHR flight (BA1487) isn't showing up at all when I search.. does this mean its sold out for now?
ExpertFlyer is showing J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 for this flight
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Old Jun 3, 19, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by FliGuy View Post
The GLA-LHR flight (BA1487) isn't showing up at all when I search.. does this mean its sold out for now?
Correct:

J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

I don't actually believe the aircraft is full.
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Old Jun 3, 19, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Correct:

J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

I don't actually believe the aircraft is full.
Thanks - I'll keep checking...
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Old Jun 3, 19, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by Starship73 View Post
ExpertFlyer is showing J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 for this flight
But in terms of occupied seats so far by cabin (admittedly not the same as number of tickets sold):
F 1/14
J 24/86
W 0/30
Y 68/145
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Old Jun 3, 19, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by FliGuy View Post
Thanks - I'll keep checking...

Probably a large selection of seats reserved for staff
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