Booked an indirect return ATL - ORD - LHR can I miss the 1st leg?
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Booked an indirect return ATL - ORD - LHR can I miss the 1st leg?
Hi All
I booked a return flight to ATL the flight is as follows
LHR - ATL on BA
ATL - ORD on AA
ORD - LHR on BA
I am now actually going to be in Chicago Thursday and would rather not have to fly back to ATL to catch the middle flight. What will happen if I just show up for the ORD - LHR flight?
Thanks
PS I am BA Gold
I booked a return flight to ATL the flight is as follows
LHR - ATL on BA
ATL - ORD on AA
ORD - LHR on BA
I am now actually going to be in Chicago Thursday and would rather not have to fly back to ATL to catch the middle flight. What will happen if I just show up for the ORD - LHR flight?
Thanks
PS I am BA Gold
Last edited by DelaQ; May 22, 2019 at 9:37 am Reason: Typo
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You may be okay, but you may be denied boarding for attempting to fly coupons out of sequence. It's a risk.
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This is an interesting one. I am NOT advocating that you try this, but assuming you have a relatively brief connection in ORD, I'd lay a sizeable wager that your no-show on AA wouldn't find its way over to BA for the ORD-LHR to be cancelled (as it should be) before it departs.
I have no evidence for this, just a somewhat underwhelmed view of the IT systems involved.
Again, I don't recommend you try this. But in practice, I think there's a fair chance you'd get away with it. Of course, if I'm wrong and it does trigger your flight to be cancelled you'd be left with a potentially large bill for a walk up ticket.
I have no evidence for this, just a somewhat underwhelmed view of the IT systems involved.
Again, I don't recommend you try this. But in practice, I think there's a fair chance you'd get away with it. Of course, if I'm wrong and it does trigger your flight to be cancelled you'd be left with a potentially large bill for a walk up ticket.
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You *can* do it (no one will attempt to do something to you physically to force you onto the flight you don't want to take) and it's not against the law, but if you do so, with extremely high probability you *cannot* take the next segment because your ticket will be cancelled as a no show. If you're allowed to board the next segment, there's a (slight) chance that you or your TA could get a bill from the airline for the fare difference based on a last minute ticket change.
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This is an interesting one. I am NOT advocating that you try this, but assuming you have a relatively brief connection in ORD, I'd lay a sizeable wager that your no-show on AA wouldn't find its way over to BA for the ORD-LHR to be cancelled (as it should be) before it departs.
I have no evidence for this, just a somewhat underwhelmed view of the IT systems involved.
Again, I don't recommend you try this. But in practice, I think there's a fair chance you'd get away with it. Of course, if I'm wrong and it does trigger your flight to be cancelled you'd be left with a potentially large bill for a walk up ticket.
I have no evidence for this, just a somewhat underwhelmed view of the IT systems involved.
Again, I don't recommend you try this. But in practice, I think there's a fair chance you'd get away with it. Of course, if I'm wrong and it does trigger your flight to be cancelled you'd be left with a potentially large bill for a walk up ticket.
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Thanks for the replies - very helpful feel free to continue to give me your thoughts. This is obviously not black or white. So, the question is how risk averse am I?
Interestingly the person I spoke to at the Exec club, didn't say you can't, she said "I can't advise you"
Interestingly the person I spoke to at the Exec club, didn't say you can't, she said "I can't advise you"
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The connection time is irrelevant. It is the time elapsed from boarding at ATL (or not) until the onwards flight departs. That is more in the 5-6 hour range. AA will auto-cancel the remaining segments of the ticket almost immediately after closing the flight for which OP no shows. Whether that takes an hour or two or whether, by sheer luck, BA does not pick it up by the time OP boards at ORD, the risk here is that OP is not merely denied boarding, but that he must purchase a new single ticket at walk-up prices and also suffer a delay until the next flight with availability.
Only OP can judge the risk tolerance, but a single walk-up ticket can cost a small fortune. I take a lot of risks,but not knowing whether 10 minutes, 10 hours, or 10 days is sufficient, means that I cannot even evaluate the risk.
Better question: What will it cost to change the ticket to drop the segment?
Only OP can judge the risk tolerance, but a single walk-up ticket can cost a small fortune. I take a lot of risks,but not knowing whether 10 minutes, 10 hours, or 10 days is sufficient, means that I cannot even evaluate the risk.
Better question: What will it cost to change the ticket to drop the segment?
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A warm welcome to Flyertalk and the BA Board DelaQ although I see you registered years ago so have come out of lurking mode ^.
I'm no ticketing expert but like others have said not a risk I would like to take but perhaps as Ldnn1 has alluded to is the ticket now changeable now you have flown the outbound to make it an open jaw? Fare rules can be very complicated so I'll defer to others about this.
In any case I think if you do go ahead with missing the middle flight then your with almost certainty going to be auto cancelled at ATL when you fail to show.
Off topic but bear in mind you only get 5 posts to start with so just adding that for information.
I'm no ticketing expert but like others have said not a risk I would like to take but perhaps as Ldnn1 has alluded to is the ticket now changeable now you have flown the outbound to make it an open jaw? Fare rules can be very complicated so I'll defer to others about this.
In any case I think if you do go ahead with missing the middle flight then your with almost certainty going to be auto cancelled at ATL when you fail to show.
Off topic but bear in mind you only get 5 posts to start with so just adding that for information.
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Have you tried to cancel the second flight?
Depending on the structure of the original fare, making it open-jaw might be allowed? There'd probably be a change fee to pay but it may be cheaper / easier than flying ORD-ATL to catch your original internal flight?
(I could be wrong but that'd be where I'd go rather than no-showing for a leg)
Depending on the structure of the original fare, making it open-jaw might be allowed? There'd probably be a change fee to pay but it may be cheaper / easier than flying ORD-ATL to catch your original internal flight?
(I could be wrong but that'd be where I'd go rather than no-showing for a leg)
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OP's title talks about missing the 1st leg .. so its not clear if the OP flew the 1st leg already.
Booked an indirect return ATL - ORD - LHR can I miss the 1st leg?