BA pulling Kiev and St Petersburg routes effective 4 Oct 2019
May 17, 2019, 9:11 am
#16
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 606
Got a text that my LHR-KBP for 2nd of Nov is cancelled, but return on 3rd is still showing as scheduled. So is it pulled completely or just reduced frequency?
And another thing, I booked those flights during double Avios promo, if I now rebook or cancel will I lose out on 2019 bonus Avios?
And another thing, I booked those flights during double Avios promo, if I now rebook or cancel will I lose out on 2019 bonus Avios?
May 17, 2019, 9:12 am
#17
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,439
It’s a shame that these have been pulled. Lately we’ve seen BA pull a number of short haul ‘business’ routes in favour of leisure destinations. I guess that’s what happens at a slot restricted airport.
May 17, 2019, 9:19 am
#18
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 156
But if there's no better alternative for you than FR, maybe you should just go ahead and book it -- if it's cheaper that is. BA would rebook you with no refund so you might as well pocket the difference; if BA do rebook to FR or others do so first, the discount is only going to close.
May 17, 2019, 9:24 am
#19
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: London UK
Programs: BAEC Silver,, Oman Air Gold
Posts: 747
There’s also PS (Ukraine International Airlines) who fly from LGW. I did a specimen costing for December and it was Ł159 rtn so FR are still winning on cost.
I almost got a flight on PS from Lviv to Kyiv a few years back but in the end decided to get the train to see the countryside. The ticket I had entitled me to use the wonderfully translated Hall of Enhanced Comforts at the Railway Station !
I almost got a flight on PS from Lviv to Kyiv a few years back but in the end decided to get the train to see the countryside. The ticket I had entitled me to use the wonderfully translated Hall of Enhanced Comforts at the Railway Station !
May 17, 2019, 9:40 am
#20
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: LON
Programs: BA Gold, LH SEN , A3*G & others less exciting that don't fit in my wallet
Posts: 1,657
Ukraine International are okay ... they had 2 daily LGW - Kiev flights .. though one of the flights from LGW was frequently at dreadful timings ( late night departure arriving into Kiev at 4am ) .. usually cheap enough, if LGW works for you and you avoid the overnight flight on the outbound it's not the worst option at all
May 17, 2019, 9:49 am
#21
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 516
This is a great shame re LED, which has become my regular route. I’m not entirely surprised, as I would say over the winter months, you could have had a row to yourself in economy on every flight I was on. However my return flight next week has club to row 10 and this isn’t too unusual, so I don’t think it’s down to revenue entirely. I suspect LED airport is logistically much for complex for BA to operate out of than most EU airports, with the visa situation etc., so they’d rather just fly more people to the beach, citybreaks and mountains.
Not sure I really fancy Rossiya from Gatwick as the direct, I guess Finnair becomes the next best indirect option with one world! Also a great shame to loose the option of a fairly cheap 80tp in CE on this route when short!
Not sure I really fancy Rossiya from Gatwick as the direct, I guess Finnair becomes the next best indirect option with one world! Also a great shame to loose the option of a fairly cheap 80tp in CE on this route when short!
May 17, 2019, 10:32 am
#23
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,683
This really sucks. 
Not that I am affected that much as BA's longhaul fares have always allowed to take PS between IEV and LON as the BA flight does not really connect to anything in both directions, but it was nice to start the trip with a BA crew when we chose to do so. I am not surprised though as the BA schedule was very inconvenient - who wants to leave London at 8am when you can take PS at noon? PS manages to fill 2 daily flights while BA has been struggling with a daily flight. And BA has always been the cheapest. I think BA never picked much of the P2P traffic while Transatlantic traffic is scooped by the Star Alliance with much much better connections. Transferring from LGW to LHR will become a permanent thing for us.
Not that I am affected that much as BA's longhaul fares have always allowed to take PS between IEV and LON as the BA flight does not really connect to anything in both directions, but it was nice to start the trip with a BA crew when we chose to do so. I am not surprised though as the BA schedule was very inconvenient - who wants to leave London at 8am when you can take PS at noon? PS manages to fill 2 daily flights while BA has been struggling with a daily flight. And BA has always been the cheapest. I think BA never picked much of the P2P traffic while Transatlantic traffic is scooped by the Star Alliance with much much better connections. Transferring from LGW to LHR will become a permanent thing for us.
May 17, 2019, 10:39 am
#24
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 77
oh bugger
I had a christmas trip booked to kyiv with BA too. Not had any contact from them yet
Also annoying as i was going to use it as a transfer point for flying to Baku.
I had a christmas trip booked to kyiv with BA too. Not had any contact from them yet
Also annoying as i was going to use it as a transfer point for flying to Baku.
Last edited by RyanLHR; May 17, 2019 at 10:45 am
May 17, 2019, 10:50 am
#25
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PVG, FRA, SEA, HEL
Programs: UA Premier Gold
Posts: 4,783
As the UK is still part of the European Union ->
A transportation contract is in place, which cannot be voided at will by BA.
This triggers EC261/2004 article 8 protection. The airline has to rebook the passenger onto an alternative flight. If BA doesn't serve the route, LH/LX/OS do.
just had text saying my fllight to Kiev in December was cancelled.
This triggers EC261/2004 article 8 protection. The airline has to rebook the passenger onto an alternative flight. If BA doesn't serve the route, LH/LX/OS do.
May 17, 2019, 10:53 am
#26
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,888
As the UK is still part of the European Union ->
A transportation contract is in place, which cannot be voided at will by BA.
This triggers EC261/2004 article 8 protection. The airline has to rebook the passenger onto an alternative flight. If BA doesn't serve the route, LH/LX/OS do.
A transportation contract is in place, which cannot be voided at will by BA.
This triggers EC261/2004 article 8 protection. The airline has to rebook the passenger onto an alternative flight. If BA doesn't serve the route, LH/LX/OS do.
May 17, 2019, 10:56 am
#27
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,210
Taking the TLL route withdrawal as an example, BA ended up rebooking 125 ticket holders onto SK services via ARN and CPH. Redemption ticket holders were included in that particular agreement. In the case of KBP, I'd be waiting to see if a rebooking arrangement with LH via FRA/MUC materialises
May 17, 2019, 11:21 am
#28
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,683
Taking the TLL route withdrawal as an example, BA ended up rebooking 125 ticket holders onto SK services via ARN and CPH. Redemption ticket holders were included in that particular agreement. In the case of KBP, I'd be waiting to see if a rebooking arrangement with LH via FRA/MUC materialises
May 17, 2019, 12:32 pm
#30
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Belfast
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 379
TK would mean a minimum travel time of approx 7.30/8 hrs vs 3.20 hrs on FR.
A return ticket on TK starts at around GBP640 in business and around GBP215 in economy.
A return ticket on FR starts at around Ł55.
Undoubtedly a much more comfortable experience in TK but not really comparable in either cost or duration.
A return ticket on TK starts at around GBP640 in business and around GBP215 in economy.
A return ticket on FR starts at around Ł55.
Undoubtedly a much more comfortable experience in TK but not really comparable in either cost or duration.
Now I’m off to reprimand myself for thinking about the option above.