A sad ending...

Old May 15, 19, 8:50 pm
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A sad ending...

I was looking at Google Maps satellite view today of VCV airport in California. Of the BA planes there, I see at least 8 complete 747 and a 767 - plus this one. Does that make it 1.2 BA 767's at VCV? Looks like they saved the cockpit separately.

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How sad ... although some bits will have a new life.
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Old May 16, 19, 1:41 am
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is it sad when a car ends up at a scrap yard when it is no longer needed?
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Old May 16, 19, 1:53 am
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is it sad when a car ends up at a scrap yard when it is no longer needed?
Depends on the car! But it's a very pertinent analogy.
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Funnily enough, Facebook reminded me that it's three years this week since I scrapped my favourite car. I'm still a bit sad about that!
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After the scrapping of the heritage fleet at Cosford, no-one can accuse BA of being sentimental about its machines!
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And yes, it is sad to me. By my book, scrapping something that works is a form of waste, maybe justifiable waste but waste nonetheless.

That's partly why I have stopped buying Ikea stuff: ikea furniture always outlives my love for it and I do feel guilty discarding it when it is "fine" , yet can't stand it any more.
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Old May 16, 19, 3:00 am
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And yes, it is sad to me. By my book, scrapping something that works is a form of waste, maybe justifiable waste but waste nonetheless.

That's partly why I have stopped buying Ikea stuff: ikea furniture always outlives my love for it and I do feel guilty discarding it when it is "fine" , yet can't stand it any more.
use craigslist or other such websites to sell your old furniture (ikea or otherwise)

sold a 6 yo ikea sectional for 600$ and bought it new for 900$ back in the day. 2 guys showed up, hauled it away and gave me cash. Much better option tha scrapyard.
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is it sad when a car ends up at a scrap yard when it is no longer needed?
If it is a machine of beauty, if it is a vehicle that carried one's dreams and prompts one's memories, or if it is an evocation of fond nostalgia - then yes, it is sad.

I agree that few people would shed tears at a scrapped Ford Sierra, but that's not quite the same as the OP's example. For me, there were some heart-breaking photos of G-BNLL's final moments as a recognisable aircraft, but that was because of a particular connection to that chain of events.
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If it is a machine of beauty, if it is a vehicle that carried one's dreams and prompts one's memories, or if it is an evocation of fond nostalgia - then yes, it is sad.

I agree that few people would shed tears at a scrapped Ford Sierra, but that's not quite the same as the OP's example. For me, there were some heart-breaking photos of G-BNLL's final moments as a recognisable aircraft, but that was because of a particular connection to that chain of events.
I can't see scrapping of a commercial aeroplane is different to a Ford Sierra - buy vehicle , use vehicle, sell or scrap vehicle seems to be a normal process ; in this case it was scrapped by BA - if it had been offered a higher amount by another company that wanted to continue using it, I expect that it would have done
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If it was a Ford Sierra, I'd take it to the scrapyard myself..
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If it is a machine of beauty, if it is a vehicle that carried one's dreams and prompts one's memories, or if it is an evocation of fond nostalgia - then yes, it is sad.
It is funny how we get attached to things, and yes it is sad when something as magnificent as a machine, which represents many hours of work ends up as scrap. It is illogical as obsolesence has always been part of the air and car industry. I felt sad when the DC-10s finally went as they were lovely aircraft which survived in spite of two horrendous accidents that meant the grounding of all DC10s at one point in 1979. It nearly broke BCAL. Still when I see the antiquated old hulks still plying around the USA (MD80s are still flying for AA - who flies them still in Europe? Volotea have the Boeing 717 I know).Still onward and upwards!
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Old May 16, 19, 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
I can't see scrapping of a commercial aeroplane is different to a Ford Sierra - buy vehicle , use vehicle, sell or scrap vehicle seems to be a normal process ; in this case it was scrapped by BA - if it had been offered a higher amount by another company that wanted to continue using it, I expect that it would have done
It's not nearly as abnormal as you seem to think for people to associate positive memories with certain inanimate objects but not others - where the strength of the association is a function of specific characteristics (size, grandeur, etc...) of the object.
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buy vehicle , use vehicle, sell or scrap vehicle seems to be a normal process ; in this case it was scrapped by BA
Fully agree with you that it is an entirely normal process, but many of life's normal processes can be sad to any given person for any given reason - people can be sad when they sell the house when their kids grew up even though it may well be a natural process that it no longer suits who they have become and how they now live, they don't have to but they can. They can be sad when they stop being in contact with a friend who mattered to them dearly for years, even if it is a natural consequence of progressive distanciation, and they can be sad to throw away or see the breakage of thing they connect to happy memories, or perhaps just to another stage of their life even if it is something that they haven't used or haven't been for many years - and I am not even talking about the most natural process of them all, one which for many people is symbolically in the background of any of the above examples anyway.
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If it is a machine of beauty, if it is a vehicle that carried one's dreams and prompts one's memories, or if it is an evocation of fond nostalgia - then yes, it is sad.

I agree that few people would shed tears at a scrapped Ford Sierra, but that's not quite the same as the OP's example. For me, there were some heart-breaking photos of G-BNLL's final moments as a recognisable aircraft, but that was because of a particular connection to that chain of events.
That's the bird that had an unfortunate off piste incident at JNB right?
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