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Old May 15, 2019, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Maybe a good (short route) to speed up the crew / pilot training scheme?
Very good point.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Maybe a good (short route) to speed up the crew / pilot training scheme?
Like MAD you mean ? Which will be happening in next few months.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:15 pm
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Well yes, but being used to accelerate familiarisation, whilst still serving a “long haul” route - not underutilising a large aircraft...
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:19 pm
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The pilots who do the MAD route will probably be doing it three days in a row like now. Unless BA want all the qualified A350 pilots to have their turn at the new wheels.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by ramzi
That's because it actually is under 2000mi, but BA counts it as 2001mi, same with BEY, in order to increase the tier points gained but also the Avios required to book it.
LHR-BEY is 2167mi, LHR-TLV is 2233mi.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ramzi
That's because it actually is under 2000mi, but BA counts it as 2001mi, same with BEY, in order to increase the tier points gained but also the Avios required to book it.
Both routes are comfortably over 2k.

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Old May 15, 2019, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by BA6501
LHR-BEY is 2167mi, LHR-TLV is 2233mi.
For LHR-BEY that is how BA now counts it, ME counts it differently, and this is (relatively) new. It was not always 140TP. Maybe the situation for TLV is different as it is slightly further, there was an article about this a while back but had no luck finding it.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Maybe a good (short route) to speed up the crew / pilot training scheme?
That's very good answer. Yes, this is for crew / pilot training flight. After that, they will deployed A350 to TLV.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by gordo6
This seems like a direct response to VS starting TLV service. BA162 has also been retimed to depart on pretty much the same time as the VS flight.
Nothing to do with VS. This was planned long before VS announced their service, but held back for various reasons.
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Old May 15, 2019, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by gordo6
This seems like a direct response to VS starting TLV service. BA162 has also been retimed to depart on pretty much the same time as the VS flight.
I don’t think it’s that at all, or if it’s a factor it’s only a minor one. More likely just the best fit for BA for scheduling and capacity on these flights. BA has been twiddling with the TLV schedules and aircraft for years.
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Old May 15, 2019, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ramzi
For LHR-BEY that is how BA now counts it, ME counts it differently, and this is (relatively) new. It was not always 140TP. Maybe the situation for TLV is different as it is slightly further, there was an article about this a while back but had no luck finding it.
BA has counted it as such ever since the route was taken over from BD - can't remember what the deal was back in the BMED days (or before!). But the cities haven't spread further apart, certainly not 150mi+! ME counts it as 2161mi, GCM as 2167mi, and BA as 2168mi.

Anyway - let's stay on topic
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Old May 15, 2019, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01 I look forward to going there one day, my destination bucket list is growing. Back on topic I am very much looking forward to the A350 and hope it's on the LAX route which is my usual and favourite.
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Can't see it on there soon without an F cabin.
True, but hopefully at some point for any future A350's with a F cabin.
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Old May 15, 2019, 4:59 pm
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True, but hopefully at some point for any future A350's with a F cabin.
I don’t think any airline operates a 4 class A350 (happy to be told otherwise), it’s standard configuration is 3 class and I can’t see any reason why an airline would move away from that at the moment! Certainly not BA anyway.
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Old May 15, 2019, 5:15 pm
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I don’t think any airline operates a 4 class A350 (happy to be told otherwise), it’s standard configuration is 3 class and I can’t see any reason why an airline would move away from that at the moment! Certainly not BA anyway.
Malaysian do a F cabin on their A350, although it's branded a Business Suites and JAL are doing a F cabin on their A350-900 but I'm not aware of others as yet. China Eastern are doing one too.

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Old May 15, 2019, 5:18 pm
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Ah, but no Premium Economy on those - so still a 3 class configuration.
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