Not flying the final leg?
May 6, 2019, 3:18 pm
#16
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I think its pretty poor show to drop a final leg with checked luggage, and expecting to get it fished out for you at Heathrow.
To be clear, its not about some pious perspective of flying what you've booked, but that its the sort of behaviour that will certainly get noticed as it adds cost and inconvenience for BA.
I honestly don't think they give a hoot about dropping last legs on HBO, but what we don't want if for some sort of draconian response spoiling it for everyone!
So by all means drop the last leg, but make sure you are HBO.
To be clear, its not about some pious perspective of flying what you've booked, but that its the sort of behaviour that will certainly get noticed as it adds cost and inconvenience for BA.
I honestly don't think they give a hoot about dropping last legs on HBO, but what we don't want if for some sort of draconian response spoiling it for everyone!
So by all means drop the last leg, but make sure you are HBO.
May 6, 2019, 4:00 pm
#17
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I am sorry but this is nonsense when talking about the return portion. As there is no APD concern on return portion, you have standard 24 hours after scheduled arrival of longhaul flight to catch your connection to INV.
For outbound, to avoid the hefty APD charge, Rules are as follows:
If flight A(from INV) is scheduled to arrive before 17.00, then, flight B(your longhaul) is treated as connected if the booked time of departure falls within six hours of the scheduled time of arrival of flight A. (NOTE NOT 24 hours, special rules for domestic to international connections - only 6 hours allowed in this case)
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between 17.00 and midnight, Flight B is treated as connected if the departure is at or before 10.00 on the following day.
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between midnight and 04.00, flight B is treated as connected if the booked time of departure is at or before 10.00 on the same day.
For outbound, to avoid the hefty APD charge, Rules are as follows:
If flight A(from INV) is scheduled to arrive before 17.00, then, flight B(your longhaul) is treated as connected if the booked time of departure falls within six hours of the scheduled time of arrival of flight A. (NOTE NOT 24 hours, special rules for domestic to international connections - only 6 hours allowed in this case)
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between 17.00 and midnight, Flight B is treated as connected if the departure is at or before 10.00 on the following day.
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between midnight and 04.00, flight B is treated as connected if the booked time of departure is at or before 10.00 on the same day.
I think mda03jb was referring to BA pricing policies rather than ADP rules, in regard to the INV returns, but maybe I misunderstood.
May 6, 2019, 5:39 pm
#18
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OP hasn't mentioned the timing of the flight from NYC arriving into LHR. A 7am arrival into T5 finds the next flight up to INV at 16:30 or so, I'd be wanting my luggage pronto at T5, to be fair, and up to arrivals for a shower and to change into fresh clothes!
May 6, 2019, 6:47 pm
#19
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If the OP does not have an overriding reason to return with AA, an alternative not discussed so far is to return from JFK on BA2272 to Gatwick, leaving at 22:00 and arriving at LGW at 10:00 the next morning. The flight to INV is still from LHR, and passengers are responsible for getting themselves, and their bags, from LGW to LHR.
With bags in hand, it could be easy to go straight home, with no complication over retrieving them from the LHR transfer system.
With bags in hand, it could be easy to go straight home, with no complication over retrieving them from the LHR transfer system.
May 7, 2019, 12:36 am
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I am sorry but this is nonsense when talking about the return portion. As there is no APD concern on return portion, you have standard 24 hours after scheduled arrival of longhaul flight to catch your connection to INV.
For outbound, to avoid the hefty APD charge, Rules are as follows:
If flight A(from INV) is scheduled to arrive before 17.00, then, flight B(your longhaul) is treated as connected if the booked time of departure falls within six hours of the scheduled time of arrival of flight A. (NOTE NOT 24 hours, special rules for domestic to international connections - only 6 hours allowed in this case)
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between 17.00 and midnight, Flight B is treated as connected if the departure is at or before 10.00 on the following day.
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between midnight and 04.00, flight B is treated as connected if the booked time of departure is at or before 10.00 on the same day.
For outbound, to avoid the hefty APD charge, Rules are as follows:
If flight A(from INV) is scheduled to arrive before 17.00, then, flight B(your longhaul) is treated as connected if the booked time of departure falls within six hours of the scheduled time of arrival of flight A. (NOTE NOT 24 hours, special rules for domestic to international connections - only 6 hours allowed in this case)
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between 17.00 and midnight, Flight B is treated as connected if the departure is at or before 10.00 on the following day.
If flight A is scheduled to arrive between midnight and 04.00, flight B is treated as connected if the booked time of departure is at or before 10.00 on the same day.
May 7, 2019, 1:18 am
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Surely the best option. Inverness figures in the itinerary because it saves significant cash: so swallow the inconvenience of a second visit north of the border as the cost of that option.
And celebrate the extra handful of avios and TPs
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May 7, 2019, 1:30 am
#24
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This.
I wish more people at least checked the prices of doing this option.
The savings will likely not be as great as a 'full' start / end in INV but still not as costly as the direct ex LHR flight so it's a balance. Want the full savings (and TPs) then you put up with the full inconvenience.
Another option is to book the final LHR-INV and the return for the day or two after you land so you get your luggage back at LHR.
I wish more people at least checked the prices of doing this option.
The savings will likely not be as great as a 'full' start / end in INV but still not as costly as the direct ex LHR flight so it's a balance. Want the full savings (and TPs) then you put up with the full inconvenience.
Another option is to book the final LHR-INV and the return for the day or two after you land so you get your luggage back at LHR.
May 7, 2019, 1:41 am
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For INTL-INTL standard 24 hour rule applies!
May 7, 2019, 2:56 am
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that was a flight from inv but I’ve just checked and not seeing the difference, ie flying from inv connecting to the 10.30 flight to lax (1h55 transit) or the 15.30 (6h50 transit) seems to price similarly for both full price and taxes/surcharges alone. no one at ba gave me that explanation in any case so maybe there are exceptions?
Last edited by orbitmic; May 7, 2019 at 3:03 am
May 7, 2019, 3:06 am
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If the OP has not already booked their ticket, it is well worth a look at this option. In checking fares, the difference was £91 per passenger returning to LHR on the dates I choose. I have done a few ex-INV but always return to LHR as I just want to get home after my trip. Another option that might be worth exploring is starting the journey in DUB.
you can check what and why there is a difference by just pricing the WTP and CW fares on ba.com and comparing the taxes/fees/charges for both.
May 7, 2019, 3:08 am
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if it was a DIF fare the UuA cash cost can be quite high as the I think the carrier surcharge is capped. I had to pay ~£200 for a UuA on an exINV once.
you can check what and why there is a difference by just pricing the WTP and CW fares on ba.com and comparing the taxes/fees/charges for both.
you can check what and why there is a difference by just pricing the WTP and CW fares on ba.com and comparing the taxes/fees/charges for both.
