GGL and Premier on a plane
#31
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At which point did the crew mentions *your* identifiable status information to other status passengers? If they say 1A is a GGL I think it’s a violation of the data protection regulation. But it’s hard for me to see how you are personally impacted when other people get to know there are a certain number of passengers in F are GGLs.
[Emphasis mine]
The crew member is claimed to have commented that they were all GGL. You are right that if the crew member said "some passengers in the cabin are GGL" that would not constitute identifiable private data, but "all passengers" does because it means all of 1A, 1D, 1E, 1K, etc.
In other words, based on the information provided (as reported), you could look at any of the passengers in the FLUB cabin and know/believe that he/she individually is GGL.
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i agree it’s likely but in a way it doesn’t make it better. Imagine the bitter customer recognises one of the lucky ones (for instance a more junior colleague on the same flight or a friend or sister in law going to the same family holiday) and starts spreading fake news to their boss or husband that Martha says she always flies in Y but crew told me she’s GGL so she must be lying or Susan claims she hasn’t been abroad for 5 years but crew told me she’s GGL so she must be cheating on Peter and having a secret life of far flung exotic hangouts with her gigolo lover when she claims she is off to Basingstoke for her weekly training course...
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Bloke arrived at meeting annoyed because the boss had sat next to him in the lounge/on the flight. Boss had said as it was a business trip with bigger seats etc. they had to work. Therefore they couldn't drink, watch the IFE etc. Was also warned not to do it again He had no idea his boss had top status.
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It is not a lie - if it is not available to that passenger , then it is not available. Saying that they were taken would be a lie
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Only anecdote I know is that Sean Connery hated BA and publicly voiced his desire to only fly VA. Based on this, the BA board made him a Premier.
If complaining was what got a Premier, some people on FT would be offered the black card in no time.
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If you look at post 7 again, the following is mentioned:
[Emphasis mine]
The crew member is claimed to have commented that they were all GGL. You are right that if the crew member said "some passengers in the cabin are GGL" that would not constitute identifiable private data, but "all passengers" does because it means all of 1A, 1D, 1E, 1K, etc.
In other words, based on the information provided (as reported), you could look at any of the passengers in the FLUB cabin and know/believe that he/she individually is GGL.
[Emphasis mine]
The crew member is claimed to have commented that they were all GGL. You are right that if the crew member said "some passengers in the cabin are GGL" that would not constitute identifiable private data, but "all passengers" does because it means all of 1A, 1D, 1E, 1K, etc.
In other words, based on the information provided (as reported), you could look at any of the passengers in the FLUB cabin and know/believe that he/she individually is GGL.
Are you famous? ;-)
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Assuming someone in CLUB could *personally identify* each person in FLUB by facial recognition equipment, yes, the information constitutes a personal data leak. One exception would be someone famous sitting in FLUB. For example, you see Boris Johnson in FLUB and crew then tells you that everyone in FLUB is GGL. Then you are effectively told that Mr Johnson is a GGL.
anyway enough on privacy for me, I think it’s high time the thread refocused on the op’s hopes to know how many ggls and prems can be on a given flight.
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I don't think I've ever met a GGL who wanted their status to be kept a closely-guard state secret under penalty of a GDPR lawsuit... usually quite the opposite! :-)
As to the Madrid flight, do we think it is more likely that:
1. There were _actually_ at least 14 GGLs aboard, _and_ the outsourced Madrid ground staff had the willing and ability to prioritise strictly by CIV and move them all into F, or;
2. The crew actually told a small white lie to explain why Mr Gold hadn't made it into F.
As a non-GGL Gold who got his (BA Blue) partner into F on MAD-LHR, while GGL friends have remained in J on the route, I'd think latter more likely.
As to the Madrid flight, do we think it is more likely that:
1. There were _actually_ at least 14 GGLs aboard, _and_ the outsourced Madrid ground staff had the willing and ability to prioritise strictly by CIV and move them all into F, or;
2. The crew actually told a small white lie to explain why Mr Gold hadn't made it into F.
As a non-GGL Gold who got his (BA Blue) partner into F on MAD-LHR, while GGL friends have remained in J on the route, I'd think latter more likely.
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For someone so recognisable, what would Premier give over and above being a famous person?
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Good publicity for BA in way, I guess. Plus I don't know the full facts, but I believe Premier does come with some certain perks which start way before you arrive to the airport. But I'm not going to speculate.