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Changes to redemption prices on partner airlines eff 30 May 2019

Changes to redemption prices on partner airlines eff 30 May 2019

Old Apr 29, 19, 10:20 am
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Looks like the Head of Communications at Marriott has taken a new job at BA.
The email is totally vague and does not give any answers. At a minimum they could have given one example of how the # of miles required is changing.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:21 am
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"Don’t worry if you have an existing Avios booking with a partner airline. It’s still valid and you can make changes or cancel it if you need to*. Our new Avios prices will apply to any changes or new bookings you make after 30 May 2019."

So if you make changes to dates/times after 30 May, will you have to pay the difference in Avios for the new flight? So book AA from JFK-MIA in coach for November. Price: 7,500 Avios. Let's say price rises to 20,000 Avios. Will changes be based on availability of award seats, regardless of the increase redemption level? So an additional charge of 12,500 Avios, or just the change fee?

Booking now under current rates with the intention of changing the dates after May 30 may or may not be a valid strategy.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:23 am
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I hope these (below) are the only change ?? Not the requirement on avios?

What is changing with our partner airlines?
From 30 May 2019, we’ll be changing our Avios prices on reward flights with the following partner airlines: Alaska Airlines, Air Italy, American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Japan Airlines, LATAM, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Qatar Airways, S7, Sri Lankan and Royal Jordanian Airlines.

The price of Avios upgrades on American Airlines only will also be changing.

All Avios pricing is subject to taxes, fees and carrier charges. Example taxes, fees and carrier charges on partner airlines at Wednesday 17 April 2019 for a return journey with outbound travel on 5 May 2019 and inbound on 12 May 2019 are:

Chicago (ORD) to La Guardia (LGA) on American Airlines £8.60 plus Avios
Hong Kong (HKG) to Taipei (TPE) on Cathay Pacific £63.40 plus Avios
Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Fukuoka (FUK) on Japan Airlines £4.60 plus Avios
Lima (LIM) to Cusco (CUZ) on LATAM £12 plus Avios
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) to Bangkok (BKK) on Malaysia Airlines £28.90 plus Avios
Sydney (SYD) to Melbourne (MEL) on Qantas £20.20 plus Avios
Doha (DOH) to Bangkok (BKK) on Qatar Airways £138.70 plus Avios
Moscow (DME) to St Petersburg (LED) on S7 £16.40 plus Avios
Male (MLE) to Colombo (CMB) on Sri Lankan £107 plus Avios
Dubai (DBX) to Amman (AMM) on Royal Jordanian £180.20 plus Avios

See ba.com for full Terms and Conditions of redeeming Avios.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:31 am
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Avios is not working to book flights right now on AA
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:35 am
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Am I too hopeful that Cathay Dragon isn't listed (but Air Italy is)?
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by teriyaki View Post
Spent so much time going through the email and clicking through to try to find out what redemption rates would look like but nope, they don't say anything. Useless

Seems like a complex bowtie to move away from zones and into price based redemption. Can be nothing but bad news.
Originally Posted by BlueHorizonUK View Post
Very doubtful.

BA announcing this but not providing any more information means it's going to be bad, very bad.
Same opinion here. Iam trying to use up avios on AA domestic USA. Not much info but agree it will go to worse from bad !
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
Let me take that back.

They can always just use the multi-carrier Reward Flights as the new chart for oneworld partners.

My money is on that changing too.

I also thought after the last devaluation BA promised to give 6 months notice of any further changes.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:54 am
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It is not really acceptable to say 'changes will be happening from May 30th' but not announce what the changes are. So they MUST either:

1) announce the changes shortly, and well before May 30th; or
2) announce the changes on May 30th but have them not be effective for a number of weeks or months.

I'm personally surprised that they're changing partner redemptions; I thought BA would be going the way of fare-based redemptions on their own/IAG metal, but keeping partner redemptions the same.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by DFWsakp View Post
Looks like the Head of Communications at Marriott has taken a new job at BA.
The email is totally vague and does not give any answers. At a minimum they could have given one example of how the # of miles required is changing.
Indeed. Ah, but not to worry - the email helpfully includes information we already have, such as a link to the Avios T&Cs. Many thanks, BA!
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by DFWsakp View Post
Looks like the Head of Communications at Marriott has taken a new job at BA.
The email is totally vague and does not give any answers. At a minimum they could have given one example of how the # of miles required is changing.
I suspect the numbers aren't final yet, which is why they haven't published it...

Who's to say that they're trawling this thread for sweet spots that we're "going to miss dearly"
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:06 am
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But why announce the change but not the substance of it at all?

Appreciate that they may want to hit deadlines but if that's the case, they really haven't succeeded even if they think they have!
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by lorribarnes View Post
Avios is not working to book flights right now on AA
just booked LAX to HNL r/t for October worked fine 10 minutes ago
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by Fly2Where View Post
I hope these (below) are the only change ?? Not the requirement on avios?

What is changing with our partner airlines?
From 30 May 2019, we’ll be changing our Avios prices on reward flights with the following partner airlines: Alaska Airlines, Air Italy, American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Japan Airlines, LATAM, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Qatar Airways, S7, Sri Lankan and Royal Jordanian Airlines.

The price of Avios upgrades on American Airlines only will also be changing.

All Avios pricing is subject to taxes, fees and carrier charges. Example taxes, fees and carrier charges on partner airlines at Wednesday 17 April 2019 for a return journey with outbound travel on 5 May 2019 and inbound on 12 May 2019 are:

Chicago (ORD) to La Guardia (LGA) on American Airlines £8.60 plus Avios
Hong Kong (HKG) to Taipei (TPE) on Cathay Pacific £63.40 plus Avios
Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Fukuoka (FUK) on Japan Airlines £4.60 plus Avios
Lima (LIM) to Cusco (CUZ) on LATAM £12 plus Avios
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) to Bangkok (BKK) on Malaysia Airlines £28.90 plus Avios
Sydney (SYD) to Melbourne (MEL) on Qantas £20.20 plus Avios
Doha (DOH) to Bangkok (BKK) on Qatar Airways £138.70 plus Avios
Moscow (DME) to St Petersburg (LED) on S7 £16.40 plus Avios
Male (MLE) to Colombo (CMB) on Sri Lankan £107 plus Avios
Dubai (DBX) to Amman (AMM) on Royal Jordanian £180.20 plus Avios

See ba.com for full Terms and Conditions of redeeming Avios.

Don't think it's just those routes because the partner airline list where changes will occur contains airlines not operating those routes.

The above list looks like somebody started making it but couldn't be bothered to finish it off, adding the number of avios required. Though, the list showing part of the current prices on a random selection of routes seems pretty pointless.

Who on earth composes this crap and who on earth would allow this to be sent to customers? Feels like somebody spent five minutes composing it, then figured it was time to go home so let's just send it out without finishing it.
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:27 am
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I'd only assume the worst. No reason not to given recent changes at practically every other large airline. Was hoping to use my stash for some domestic Australia flights next year...

God forbid BA tells us what the changes will be before they are implemented?
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Old Apr 29, 19, 11:30 am
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All good things must come to an end.
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