Today’s TP puzzle is:
Apr 24, 2019, 6:24 pm
#1
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Today’s TP puzzle is:
For an upcoming flight – crediting an AA booking to my BAEC (forget miles/avios, TPs are the critical issue):
Original booking:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-DFW-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 1660/1210 miles
Booking class VV then VV (economy)
This has now changed to:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-CLT-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 2270/361 miles
Booking class VV then LQ (economy)
My basic calculations this should have resulted in
Old booking: 10/10 then 10/10 TPs (all flights <2000 miles);
New booking: 10/10 then 35/5 TPs (3<2000 miles, but 1 >2000 miles).
Correct? – I should be better off, although one question: if AA rebooks me, should the rebooking at the same or higher booking class?
(By booking class = fare code?).
Original booking:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-DFW-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 1660/1210 miles
Booking class VV then VV (economy)
This has now changed to:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-CLT-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 2270/361 miles
Booking class VV then LQ (economy)
My basic calculations this should have resulted in
Old booking: 10/10 then 10/10 TPs (all flights <2000 miles);
New booking: 10/10 then 35/5 TPs (3<2000 miles, but 1 >2000 miles).
Correct? – I should be better off, although one question: if AA rebooks me, should the rebooking at the same or higher booking class?
(By booking class = fare code?).
Apr 24, 2019, 7:45 pm
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You should be better off. If not, you can ask for BA to credit the original mileage on the ticket you purchased - after you have taken the flight and can see what it has credited. So you do not loose as long as the flights are acceptable to you.
IN my experience, AA will rebook you into whatever class in the correct cabin there system feels like. Sometimes you can benefit significantly such as full Y (esp when done at the airport with limited availability) other times it can pick a lower class depending on what is available (thanks QF for rebooking me into an award bucket!). The underlying fare rules should still apply.
Booking class does does not always equal fare code. I find QR manage my booking to be helpful as it will show the booking code.
KF
IN my experience, AA will rebook you into whatever class in the correct cabin there system feels like. Sometimes you can benefit significantly such as full Y (esp when done at the airport with limited availability) other times it can pick a lower class depending on what is available (thanks QF for rebooking me into an award bucket!). The underlying fare rules should still apply.
Booking class does does not always equal fare code. I find QR manage my booking to be helpful as it will show the booking code.
KF
Apr 24, 2019, 9:40 pm
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Original routing credit (ORC) typically applies to reroutes due to IRROPS during the journey and doesn’t apply where the pax accepts a reroute because of a schedule change in advance of travel.
Apr 25, 2019, 1:47 am
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When it comes to crossing the USA continent, ORD and DFW are generally bad news, they almost always bring things below 2000 miles. There are exceptions, eg DFW-ANC. CLT and PHL are good news, PHX you have to watch. But in this situation you need do nothing, the higher TPs will be allocated automatically and I'd take a swap from ORD to CLT even without the TPs, a much better place to transit.
Apr 25, 2019, 6:30 am
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The flights changes were due to the usual American carriers changing the schedules - these flights were booked 2 months ahead, and 3 out of the 4 sectors changed (two of which changed twice!)
For me, at BWI, PHX is only 1996 miles - so 4 miles under that magic 2000 mile threshold for higher TPs - a pain, not least since inevitably the actual flight will always be greater than 1996 miles! For E-W coast internal flights I usually try and connect through CLT, failing that PHL... .
For me, at BWI, PHX is only 1996 miles - so 4 miles under that magic 2000 mile threshold for higher TPs - a pain, not least since inevitably the actual flight will always be greater than 1996 miles! For E-W coast internal flights I usually try and connect through CLT, failing that PHL... .
Apr 25, 2019, 3:33 pm
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For an upcoming flight – crediting an AA booking to my BAEC (forget miles/avios, TPs are the critical issue):
Original booking:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-DFW-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 1660/1210 miles
Booking class VV then VV (economy)
This has now changed to:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-CLT-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 2270/361 miles
Booking class VV then LQ (economy)
My basic calculations this should have resulted in
Old booking: 10/10 then 10/10 TPs (all flights <2000 miles);
New booking: 10/10 then 35/5 TPs (3<2000 miles, but 1 >2000 miles).
Correct? – I should be better off, although one question: if AA rebooks me, should the rebooking at the same or higher booking class?
(By booking class = fare code?).
Original booking:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-DFW-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 1660/1210 miles
Booking class VV then VV (economy)
This has now changed to:
AA BWI-ORB-SEA then SEA-CLT-BWI
Which is 620/1710 then 2270/361 miles
Booking class VV then LQ (economy)
My basic calculations this should have resulted in
Old booking: 10/10 then 10/10 TPs (all flights <2000 miles);
New booking: 10/10 then 35/5 TPs (3<2000 miles, but 1 >2000 miles).
Correct? – I should be better off, although one question: if AA rebooks me, should the rebooking at the same or higher booking class?
(By booking class = fare code?).
You should be better off. If not, you can ask for BA to credit the original mileage on the ticket you purchased - after you have taken the flight and can see what it has credited. So you do not loose as long as the flights are acceptable to you.
IN my experience, AA will rebook you into whatever class in the correct cabin there system feels like. Sometimes you can benefit significantly such as full Y (esp when done at the airport with limited availability) other times it can pick a lower class depending on what is available (thanks QF for rebooking me into an award bucket!). The underlying fare rules should still apply.
Booking class does does not always equal fare code. I find QR manage my booking to be helpful as it will show the booking code.
KF
IN my experience, AA will rebook you into whatever class in the correct cabin there system feels like. Sometimes you can benefit significantly such as full Y (esp when done at the airport with limited availability) other times it can pick a lower class depending on what is available (thanks QF for rebooking me into an award bucket!). The underlying fare rules should still apply.
Booking class does does not always equal fare code. I find QR manage my booking to be helpful as it will show the booking code.
KF
When it comes to crossing the USA continent, ORD and DFW are generally bad news, they almost always bring things below 2000 miles. There are exceptions, eg DFW-ANC. CLT and PHL are good news, PHX you have to watch. But in this situation you need do nothing, the higher TPs will be allocated automatically and I'd take a swap from ORD to CLT even without the TPs, a much better place to transit.