Arriving in First - Accessing Concorde Room - Aborting Connecting Flight
#16
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For the second point, if you haven't already travelled then I would book an Avios ticket which could be cancelled at 24 hours with the loss only of the the RFS fee (Ł17.50 assuming it is a single). Otherwise you need to have a fairly forensic knowledge of ticketing to work out which ticketing route is the most viable.
Many thanks for your suggestions.
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From Ł0 (or even a small refund) to Ł3,000 approximately! So quite a scale and so that's why you need a forensic study of the fare conditions to know what happens. It's not so much the "before checking in" aspect, it is more that the usual fare conditions state that a reprice on historical fares can be calculated after travel has commenced. You then need to see what INV-MIA-GLA would have cost at the time of purchase, and on some tickets there would be no effective difference, indeed the Carrier Surcharge between GLA and MIA could be lower than INV-MIA. The big benefit, particularly for premium cabins, is the lack of APD from INV, but BA claw some of that back via higher carrier surcharges from INV. However there is simply no APD on a USA to UK flight anyway, so long as there isn't a stopover, so at that point there is no difference between INV and GLA tax wise. However I have noticed that some return fares do not allow a cost effective swap between INV and GLA.
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I'll check the cost of changing the last leg to Glasgow after my outbound journey. If it is too expensive, I'll look at the cost of a one way ticket. At that point it will be 2 weeks away. My back up plan will be Virgin First Class rail or even the new Caledonian Sleeper, which may be worth trying since I have a Senior Railcard.
Many thanks for your suggestions.
Many thanks for your suggestions.
Am I correct in saying that all First Class longhaul tickets book into J class for shorthaul connections? In this case (and unless married sector logic is at play), then I suspect a change after departure will be the Ł150 change fee only?
EDIT: Just read the post above mine, it's probably safer to follow that advice than my suspicions!
#19
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Do you know what the standard change fee for your First booking is? Could it be Ł150?
Am I correct in saying that all First Class longhaul tickets book into J class for shorthaul connections? In this case (and unless married sector logic is at play), then I suspect a change after departure will be the Ł150 change fee only?
EDIT: Just read the post above mine, it's probably safer to follow that advice than my suspicions!
Am I correct in saying that all First Class longhaul tickets book into J class for shorthaul connections? In this case (and unless married sector logic is at play), then I suspect a change after departure will be the Ł150 change fee only?
EDIT: Just read the post above mine, it's probably safer to follow that advice than my suspicions!
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If you go into Manage My Booking on the website, scroll to the flight, and then select "Change / cancel booking" it might say something like "Time/date changes permitted at any time for the difference in fare. Changes subject to availability" (unlikely) or something else. What does this say - this would give you the best-case scenario.
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If you go into Manage My Booking on the website, scroll to the flight, and then select "Change / cancel booking" it might say something like "Time/date changes permitted at any time for the difference in fare. Changes subject to availability" (unlikely) or something else. What does this say - this would give you the best-case scenario.
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Also check what the cancellation fee on the ticket is - there are some first class fares that have a Ł300 change fee, and a Ł150 cancellation fee (before starting the trip). If this is the case, then a completely new ticket is an option.
The Ł50 deal seems like the best bet then?
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If the Ł300 is your change fee (and that's quite possible with a first class ticket), then I'm afraid it's not going to get cheaper.
Also check what the cancellation fee on the ticket is - there are some first class fares that have a Ł300 change fee, and a Ł150 cancellation fee (before starting the trip). If this is the case, then a completely new ticket is an option.
The Ł50 deal seems like the best bet then?
Also check what the cancellation fee on the ticket is - there are some first class fares that have a Ł300 change fee, and a Ł150 cancellation fee (before starting the trip). If this is the case, then a completely new ticket is an option.
The Ł50 deal seems like the best bet then?
Having slept on it, I have decided to buy the Ł47 one way ticket to Glasgow.
Thanks to all for your help.
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I answered this assuming this was an outbound from LHR followed by a later inbound to LHR from the way the question was phrased. If, as everyone else seems to have surmised, this is an inbound to LHR in F followed by a same day outbound from LHR in J, then you are entitled to access under BA access rules.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28247202-post2.html
Sorry for any confusion wdcosta117 .
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oneworld rules relate to long haul to short haul only, or reverse, and don't cover long haul to long haul.
However, BA's own rules are a bit more generous and a BA F inbound to LHR connecting same day on to any BA flight in any cabin departing T5 would get access to the CCR during the connection.
So for wdcosta117 if arriving on BA F and doing a same day connection to a BA flight departing T5, they would get access to the CCR during the connection. As noted, you need to show your inbound F bp as well as your onward bp at CCR reception.
However, BA's own rules are a bit more generous and a BA F inbound to LHR connecting same day on to any BA flight in any cabin departing T5 would get access to the CCR during the connection.
So for wdcosta117 if arriving on BA F and doing a same day connection to a BA flight departing T5, they would get access to the CCR during the connection. As noted, you need to show your inbound F bp as well as your onward bp at CCR reception.
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Actually, I am less sure than I was.
This is from an old lounge access guide:
I would be very tempted to ask for the advice of the lounge agent.
Edit: cross-posted with KARFA, I would listen to him, and I think that is good news!
This is from an old lounge access guide:
I would be very tempted to ask for the advice of the lounge agent.
Edit: cross-posted with KARFA, I would listen to him, and I think that is good news!