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Old Apr 7, 2019, 7:48 am
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This community maintained wiki lists out all known airports on the BA network grading each airport in terms of its practical suitability for quick flight transfers. Three transfer categories are considered (and indicated as traffic lights from left to right in the following order)

Back to back: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on the same aircraft that operated the inbound flight
Transfer: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on a different aircraft (or airline) to the one that operated the inbound flight
Landside: Full arrival and departure sequence. It is assumed check-in for the onward flight is processed prior to the arrival at the airport.

Grading:
Excellent generally means you will leave the aircraft and find yourself in the boarding area for departure.
Good suggests that you may have to clear either security and/or passports before reboarding, but it should still be possible.
Reasonable: suggests possible but with risks attached
Poor: high risk and not advisable
Ungraded

Two caveats:
A) Sometimes things don't go to plan. E.g. EDI sometimes uses buses, which puts passengers landside and thus needing to reclear security. Ditto HAM.
B) The above needs to be combined with the turnaround time. MXP often has a generous back-to-back time, for example.


ABZ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

ACE:
Back to back: Reasonable (if off season, there is a transfer channel just before passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

AGP:
Back to back: Excellent for Schengen, Risky if not. Schengen - immediate turnaround possible at gate area. Non-Schengen - there is a transit passageway back to airside on the left after passports, but there can be long delays at passports, achievable if you are willing to politely push in the queue. see here.

ALC:
Back to back: Reasonable if off season, but you do need to go fully airside if non Schengen. Small and efficient airport. Peak time: see here

ALG:
Back to back: Impractical due to visa and immigration processes.

AMS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally

ANE:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk. You may want to telephone the airport to let them know since there's no OLCI facility.

ARN:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82) * see posts 593, 238 & 1298 for more details. Post 174 is a pictorial guide.

ATH:
Back to back: Reasonable but don't hang about, you need to enter Schengen immigration, then leave Schengen, and a fairly efficient security check. Distances aren't great.

BCN:
Back to back: Good to excellent (bit of a walk, small flight connection facility to the left of passport control, dedicated security but no passports; Transfer: Good (if non-Schengen), Reasonable (if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

BEG:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good: Landside: Good. There is a transfer route, at the end of the long corridor used by arriving passengers. BA does OLCI and App boarding passes. Just a bit of a hike.

BER:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Not much transfer traffic here so no queues for transit security when doing B2B - bit of a walk though. Note you can't access the lounge if doing B2B.

BGY:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. More details, click here.

BHD:
Back to back: Excellent (use stairs upwards between gates 5 and 6, against flow); Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIO:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIQ:
Back to back: Reasonable, involves going through passports to landside, security and passports again, but you need to be off early since passport checks are thorough.

BJV:
Back to back: Not really feasible, there is no online check-in or App facility, you must check in at the gate. More details click here.

BOD:
Back to back: Reasonable but does involve going landside and back again. However it's a small airport and efficient.

BLL:
Back to back: Good (there is a clear transfer route after passport control to avoid a security check; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good

BLQ:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (bus gates)

BRI:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BSL:
Back to back:: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Bit of a walk to landside, but it's not a huge airport. See this post for info)

BRU:
Back to back: Excellent on the transfer route, reasonable if not; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Poor (see comments in post #246 , also 64 onwards)

BUD:
Back to back: Good. Airside transfer with quiet security channel (might need to ask staff to open it for you). More details here: BUD Back-to-back?

CAG:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

CDG: ☻ ☻ ☻
Back to back: Terminal 2A closed from Jan 2023 and BA now at 2D (confusingly 2B is closed but flights still go from the B gates - check in is in 2D). No airside transfer so out through immigration (long queue if on UK passport) and back in again through security (long queue unless you have fast track). Then immigration again. Sometimes busses from/to a remote stand can make it even worse.

CFU:
Back to back: Near impossible, no OLCI, you must present yourself at check-in. Process involves bus, passports, out to landside, short walk to departures building on right, security and bus. Security is bad on peak days

CGN:
Back to back: No OLCI, but on some dates it is still possible. See this post for details.

CHQ:
Back to back: Near impossible despite being a small airport, no OLCI so you can only get a boarding pass at the airport, and bus to and from gates

CMB:
Back to back: Excellent. Easy to do airside. Arriving and departing pax are not segregated. If you have your return boarding pass, just walk directly from arrival gate to departure gate.

CMF:
Back to back: Generally Good, involves going landside. Best avoid Saturdays, the main changeover day, when security is stretched.

CPH:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

CTA:
Back to back: Reasonable, there is a transfer route signed but seems obsolete. However small and efficient airport so still do-able if going via landside

DBV:
Back to back: Impractical. There's no online check in so you have to go landside and collect a boarding pass. Otherwise a very small airport

DUB:
Back to back: Reasonable if arriving on BA, Good if arriving on EI departing on BA, Excellent if arriving and departing on EI. Transfer: Excellent if arriving and departing on EI, otherwise Good. Landside: Reasonable. BA arrives into terminal 1, there is no transfer route and you will have to clear passports and security. There can be a lot of walking and a back to back BA to BA is quite risky without Fast Track. If your arriving flight is EI metal it will land at terminal 2 and you will usually go through a dedicated (and dead) passport check and no security. The terminals are connected airside. See this post for a slightly dated photo guide.

DUS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate, though risk of bus to baggage hall

EDI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor; Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally, risk of bus to baggage hall

EFL:
Back to back: High risk on a Tuesday as only one flight, passport control is slow and turnaround time is approximately 50 minutes. OLCI is possible. Saturdays are possible if arriving on the early flight and leaving on the later flight. New terminal building is complete and fully operational, no buses involved, walk to terminal. Leave baggage hall via stairs, after the exit turn right and walk back towards check-in. Security is between arrivals and check-in. Exit the building and walk up the hill to Icarus for a coffee or snack or indeed a swim between flights. No lounge. UK flights now seem to be leaving from gates 1 & 2 which requires re-clearance of passport control after security. Only a vending machine and bare bones duty free shop.

EGC:
Back to back: Impractical. Bergerac has its own check-in system and is currently not on App/OLCI, so boarding passes must be obtained in person, no later than 45 minutes before departure

EXT:
Back to back: Not possible. Airport check-in only (check-in can't be done elsewhere due to FLY not being implemented). No airside transfer either.

FCO:
Back to back: Reasonable (return shuttle to main terminal); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (Possibly excellent as of Jul 22 - see post #1092)

FDH:
Back to back: Impractical due to delays during ski season - see here.

FLR:
Back to back: Poor due to use of bus transfers and airport layout; Transfer: Poor (no transfer track}; Landside: Reasonable

FNC:
Back to back: Reasonable due to small airport. You do need to go landside and return to airside. Bus from aircraft, passports, security, passports, walk to aircraft. Note: high risk of weather related diversions.

FRA:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Poor (particularly if coming off Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

FSC:
Back to back: Uncertain - if boarding passes can be issued in advance then it will be an easy landside transfer in a tiny airport. If boarding passes can only be collected in FSC then it's impossible.

FUE:
Back to back: Reasonable if out of the peak season, airbridges used. Have to go via passports landside and security, behind check in. Try Canaries+Families security if desperate.

GCI:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, check-in can't be done in LCY or elsewhere due to FLY not implemented in Guernsey. No airside transfer either.

GIB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Must go landside, bearing right and back up through security. Turnaround can be long. Leave the aircraft early so as to beat the queue at passport arrivals.

GLA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.

GNB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good: Walk to/from aircraft. Must go landside, outside and right back into departures. Long turnaround times make this feasible though Saturdays busy.

GOA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

GOT:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

GVA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (but can be poor during ski season). Turn left in arrival lane to go back up to departures area.

HAJ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate. See posts 1670 and 1671 below.

HAM:
Back to back: Very Good to Excellent - transfer security check (not busy, before immigration) then immediately back into the departures area; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals and departures are now separated, and very occasionally bus to baggage hall.

HEL:
Back to back: Good: Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Incoming passengers can reverse direction just before Schengen passports. If a bus from gate, you will need to rush.

HER:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, it's a bus transfer and arrivals / departures are in separate buildings.

INN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside, and there is a bus transfer to/from the aircraft, but the airport is very small and highly efficient.

INV:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside and through security. See here for more info.

IOM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport)

IST:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Poor ( Would lose 15-20 minutes if lanside option is preferred )

JER:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall, sometimes you need to double back to the BA lounge.

JMK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

JTR:
Back to back: Impossible: bus transfer, slow passports.

KEF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non Schengen, Good otherwise; Landside: Good. BA flights tip arriving passengers into the departure gate. Foolproof. NB LCY flights pax use a bus from a remote stand, still easy as dropped off less than 100M from the departure gate.

KLX:
Back to back: Moderately risky due to boarding passes only being issued at check-in. No buses used normally, walk off plane straight into very small building.

KRK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

LBA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Have to go landside for any connection or b2b but small airport, see here for further details

LCA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a "Connecting Flights" channel on the left of the arrivals corridor, half way along, well before passports.

LEI:
Back to back: Moderate to risky: you have to go via landside, and you need the return boarding pass before travel. But it's a small and efficient airport. No buses are used, it's similar to LCY in operation.

LHR T3:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Follow connecting flights route, which can be as quick as 11 mins from disembark to through security. No conformance unlike T5. see here.

LIG:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for more information

LIS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a security check to the right, immediately before and avoiding the passport desks. Risk of bus gates, but still OK.

LIN:
Back to back: Not a good place due to bus transfer and needing to go fully landside; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)

LPA:
Back to back: Possibly OK if off peak. Some flights are bus gates, but it's a relatively small and efficient airport. OLCI and App check in both work.

LUX:
Back to back: Very Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Landside route is described here: Airside transfer door described here.

MAD T4:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal. Landside: Reasonable See this post for full details.

MAH:
Back to back: Good to excellent, see post number 563.

MAN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor

MCT:
Back to back: Excellent - direct transfer route

MJV:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good provided you avoid a peak time More information here. (Murcia San Javier airport closed in Jan 2019 and was replaced by RMU)

MLA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. See this post and linked blog for details.

MRS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. There is a transfer and security point just before going down to passports. Use the phone on the post to ask for it to be opened it for you; however, there is no guarantee that it will and you may have to exit to landside and re-enter through departures security.

MUC:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good but note 2 terminals; Landside: Good. Transfer point after passport, details in this post

MXP:
Back to back: Good (bit of walk to Transfer facility); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Thread links here.

NCE:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Poor; Landside: Good. There is a direct transfer route by turning into the door way on the right before the slope up to passports

NCL:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

NQY:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport). See post 475 for more information.

NTE:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. see this post.

NUE:
Back to back: Impractical unfortunately due to no OLCI, all check in done at the airport

OLB:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Arriving into Olbia is via jetty to the departure gate, no passports or security. Note no OLCI via the App, more info here.

ORK:
Back to back: Good, do need to clear passports and security but very small and efficient airport.

ORY:
Back to back: Not recommended due to fast turnarounds on LCY services. You have to go fully landside and back in again, via 2 passport checks and a security check.

OPO:
Back to back: Excellent (Look for grey escalator going up); Transfer: Good (reasonable if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

OTP:
Back to back: Good as at April 2019. Poor as of 29 Dec 18; Transfer: Excellent (See post #1919); Landside: Good to Reasonable. Arrival experience and speed of transit depends on arrival gate. On some arrivals, there is a Connection facility on the right at Passport Control after leaving aircraft although sometimes it is up some stairs and on the left. If this is the case, you need to go to the top of the stairs to see a passport official / go to passport desk (to explain you have arrived from London and are going straight back to London - likely resulting in a confused look on the officer's face) before returning half way down the stairs to go through security.

OSL:
Back to back: Good on the whole; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. (See experiences in this post, this post, this post and this post.)

OVD:
Back to back: Not really suitable. This is really an Iberia Express route but leaves T5 under BA code. The aircraft is based in OVD not LHR. Small efficient airport though.

PFO:
Back to back: Good on the whole, but you do need to go landside. However it is a small airport. May not be so good on a busy Saturday during school holidays. Note bus transfers however.

PMO:
Airport is currently being rebuilt. Once completed potentially a good option due to airbridge. Departure security is two floors above arrivals (use lift)

PMI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof - you are landed direct into boarding area

PRG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. For back-to-back the LHR-PRG arrival dumps you right into the main corridor of that pier; walk 100 ft. to security check for the BA boarding lounge and you'll be good to go.

PRN:
Back to back: Possible but not recommended, see post 557.

PSA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (not the best location since there are a lot of LCC and you have to reclear security from landside). (August 2018 review and comment)

PUY:
Back to back: Unrealistic, due to the bus transfer process followed by passport control.

RAK:
Back to back: Terrible; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. See post #1353 below

RHO:
Back to back: Infeasible - no OLCI or App check in, bus transfers from gates. Also airport very busy on Saturday PM and Sunday AM.

RTM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Reasonable during morning/evening peaks)

SEZ:
Back to back: Excellent. Use the Transit desk at the right side of the immigration hall, opposite end to passport control, see this post.

SKG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Note bus transfers on apron.

SOF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure area.

SPU:
Back to back: Reasonable but there is a bus transfer and then landside; Transfer: Reasonable but transfer routes seems to be from Star Alliance; Landside: Reasonable

STR:
Back to back: Reasonable (stairs from baggage hall back to security. Can't avoid security/passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Report here.

SVG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof, though only restricted number of flights

SVQ:
Back to back: Reasonable but need to exit landside and go up through departures, security. and passports is by the gate. Compact airport, fast security even if queuing.

SZG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. No transfer channel and note bus transfers, but small airport.

TFS:
Back to back: Reasonable but in all cases involves going landside. May be tricky to reclear security in peak holiday season.

TIA:
Back to back: Probably impractical. There is a bus transfer process and passport checks/stamps takes a while (Albania isn't in the EU).

TLL:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. see this post.

TLV:
Back to back: At your own risk. There is a transfer route with security on the way to passport control just after the rotunda.

TNG:
Back to back: No transfer or B2B route. Have to pass immigration, customs and security again. Airport is tiny (think 10 flights a day) and B2B is perfectly doable provided no problems at immigration.

TRN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. No short cuts to avoid going landside via passports x2 and security, apart from Fast Track security, but a small and efficient airport.

TXL:
Back to back: Good (security takes place in limited area by arriving gate); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Security is at gates, if using A gates. NB: Currently, this usually includes LCY flights, which now mostly use A gates like LHR flights. TXL Closed in November 2020, replaced by BER.

UIP:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk.

VCE:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good at off-peak times; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for details

VIE:
Back to back: Excellent (BEWARE: see here); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

VLC:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go via landside. Departures is straight up from the arrival point. Disagree with the previous two sentences. For me, a direct turnaround from gates 12-14 was possible without going landside. Took less than a minute.

VNO:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arriving passengers enter departing passenger area. [BA have codeshare and also has TP Run options via AY]

VRN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go landside but it's a very small airport and there is Fast Track.

WAW:
Back to back: Good (small connection facility on left after airbridge); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

ZAG:
Back to back: Good (must re-clear security--this is effectively an international transfer); Transfer: Good (must re-clear security [there are separate transfers for international to international near east end of a/p and international to domestic with passport control near west end of a/p] but airport is small); Landside: Reasonable (must clear passport control, go downstairs through baggage claim to exit, outside and upstairs to check-in, upstairs again to the top floor for security and passport control and then back downstairs to the gate level.

ZRH:
Back to back: Generally good but see this post and the replies for more information.

ZTH:
Back to back: Infeasible due to buses and no online check-in possibilities. Somewhat unfortunate given the small airport. No transfer route, you must enter Schengen and go to landside.
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Old Sep 20, 2022, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by NorthernLass
KARFA - 4 hours between flights. As it's one booking I'm assuming that in the worst-case scenario and one leg is cancelled or severely delayed I'll be entitled to re-routing and duty of care. At least I won't be stranded in a foreign country! I'll be taking an overnight bag anyway, just in case.
If it is all on one booking, then the problem does not arise. As you say, they will re-route you anyway. This thread is primarily designed for people who have a ticket that starts somewhere other than where they are based and use another ticket to 'position', that is to say to reach the departure point of their main ticket. With separate tickets, misconnects are a disaster, hence the need to minimise the risk. On a single ticket, however, one can be much more relaxed (unless arriving on time at destination is crucial and failing to do so would defeat the purpose of the journey).
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Thank you! This is the first time I have travelled specifically for status so this has been really helpful.
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Originally Posted by snuffi
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Pleased to report that the B2B at Stockholm Arlanda is still very simple indeed. When I was contemplating it I would really have liked photographs of the route, so I made sure to take some on my recent trip. I think everyone will agree it is strictly unncecessary! The BA flight I was on came into gate 86.
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1. At the top of the air bridge go up the green stairs and turn in the direction of arrivals.


2. Look for the transfer sign above, which is very soon after the top of the stairs if gate 86, slightly further if gate 87.


3. Here is the sign on the door, through which you can see a small security station. Press the green button above, which functions as a doorbell.


4. When you have pressed it, it lights up!


5. Somebody will come along, unlock the door, and let you through into this screening room. Expect to wait up to 10 minutes, in my recent case I timed it at 7 minutes. You will need to show your onward boarding card and go through a standard security process (ie both you and your luggage), even though it will be just you and one security person. Once that is done you will be let out of the onward door and into the gate area, and the security person will lock it all up again and disappear. NB this photograph was taken from the other side once I was through.
Has anyone done ARN b2b lately? Does the button to go from Airside to Airside still work? I have an AY flight landing at ARN at 6.15am and BA flight leaving ARN at 7.30am (separate booking). How is my chance of making it assuming flight arrives within 10mins of STA?
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It won't work since BA are no longer in that terminal now. They have moved to T5. Although T2 is poem again now BA don't seem to be moving back.

I am not sure of the connection set up at T5, hopefully someone can help.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
It won't work since BA are no longer in that terminal now. They have moved to T5. Although T2 is poem again now BA don't seem to be moving back.

I am not sure of the connection set up at T5, hopefully someone can help.
Don’t know about the connection situation at ARN T5 but I was there several times this summer and there’s quite a small area of non-Schengen gates behind the passport control booths which BA invariably uses. So not sure if you are let into that area when you arrive or if you are funneled elsewhere.

If you end up on the other side where the Schengen flights are, there’s a very nice cafe which sold an excellent roasted vegetable and brie sandwich with rocket and pea shoots which I really enjoyed for 95SEK and some good Swedish pastries (cardamom/cinnamon buns etc). Can’t remember the name but it’s just opposite the tax refund place which is in front of you after exiting the departures security line.




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Originally Posted by salut0
Don’t know about the connection situation at ARN T5 but I was there several times this summer and there’s quite a small area of non-Schengen gates behind the passport control booths which BA invariably uses. So not sure if you are let into that area when you arrive or if you are funneled elsewhere.
arrivals and departures are definitely segregated. i think arrivals go upstairs to a central entry immigration point. i don't know if there is a connection point before that which will let you go back down without having to go out landside.
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Old Sep 21, 2022, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by salut0
Don’t know about the connection situation at ARN T5 but I was there several times this summer and there’s quite a small area of non-Schengen gates behind the passport control booths which BA invariably uses. So not sure if you are let into that area when you arrive or if you are funneled elsewhere.
Originally Posted by KARFA
arrivals and departures are definitely segregated. i think arrivals go upstairs to a central entry immigration point. i don't know if there is a connection point before that which will let you go back down without having to go out landside.
Thank you both - I checked terminals, both AY and BA use T5 at ARN at the moment. The on-time rate is fairly ok for AY30 at the moment (max delay about 30mins). So I should have about 30mins to exit and re-enter for my flight (without any check-in bag). Ideally I'd avoid landside if possible to save spaces for stamps on the passport. I will report back once I have done this in a month.
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Old Sep 21, 2022, 11:05 am
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Ah, well I missed that point as you are arriving on AY there won't be any immigration. The arrival may be different then arriving on BA. I would say this is not really advisable as it is not a b2b and there is very little padding should your AY flight be late.
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Old Sep 21, 2022, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by WanderlusterBond
I am planning on a flight to NY in Nov. I’m going to fly World Traveller Plus from INV, via LHR, so need to position to INV. However, the first flight of the day to to INV is the same aircraft that immediately
will turn around and be the first leg of my transatlantic itinerary. Given that it is a domestic flight and that I’ll be traveling hand luggage only, am I able to deplane upon arrival at INV, and then immediately join the outbound passengers there at the gate, and then reboard for the flight to LHR? (Scheduled arrival is 1605h for the inbound, and scheduled departure is 1650h). Or am I required to exit airside and go through security again at INV? (What happens if I don’t do that? How would they know, if it is an issue?). I will have checked in online, in advance. Thanks everyone!
The last few times I've been to INV on a back-to-back I've asked on board for an "airside transfer" and they've directed me to the staff at the bottom of the steps. I've shown them my boarding pass for the INV-LHR flight and they've dropped me in departures. The one time it didn't work then, as others have said, it doesn't take too long to go through arrivals and back through security.
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Old Sep 22, 2022, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by george77300
I wasn't on the B2B, but did it as if I was (had a non Schengen connection).
BA360/361 STA 1255 (ETD 1350) - 55 mins on ground

Timings are detailed below. But following connections took you to passport control, around to baggage reclaim and into the main check in area. No real shortcut through. I would have "missed" the flight if I was on a B2B. Small point is there IS a transfer door to T1 Schengen departures after the first passport control, However this was locked and barricaded with barriers so looks to be closed and not a one off. If this opens it may save you 10 mins or so as you avoid the security screening, but doesn't work at the moment.

STA 1255
ATA 1311
Stand 1316 (STA +21)
Off 1319
Through Passport 1325
Exit Baggage 1328
Through Security 1340
To Passport 1342
Through Passport 1344
At Gate 1345 (STD -10)

In summary, I think Lyon in the current configuration is not feasible, but doable if you land ontime and get lucky with no queue at security (or push to front). (BA do NOT provide fasttrack)
If I had ran I would've made it, so certainly plausible. Just not the easiest compared to many other options. My 10 mins in security is what hypothetically would have eliminated this chance.

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Today, I have done the same as george77300 did in LYS.

Had I been on the B2B, I too would have missed the connection as they were already announcing boarding for the return flight just as I was finishing up at passport control into France (and there is quite a walk to baggage reclaim, then out, upstairs, through security, back upstairs, through passport control again etc. etc. etc.)

Transfer door to T1 Schengen departures after the first passport control still closed and barriers blocking it off still.

I agree that a B2B is unfeasible - maybe theoretically possible if you are very lucky and there are no queues whatsoever but I would say it was too risky especially as immigration and security queues were long today.

One good bit of news, however, is that BA did provide Fast Track (with my OWE status), contrary to previous reports from earlier in the year. It automatically showed up on my mobile boarding pass - so that is very a welcome addition. It worked a treat, especially as security lines were LONG today.

If possible, can someone add LYS to the Wiki?
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Old Sep 24, 2022, 1:58 am
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Thanks to a schedule change, my 6-hour stay in Jersey next month has now become a 1 hour 55 minutes B2B.

I still intend taking the trip for a (short) day out, but as I have never been there, I was wondering how easy or difficult it might be.

Is it possible to stay airside (check-in permitting) and visit the lounge, or does one have to exit and return via security.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old Sep 24, 2022, 2:14 am
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Very easy at JER. Look left, look right in the corridor, locate lounge, go into it. You could easily go landside in that time though.

there are apocryphal stories of agents who send passengers landside, so be prepared to hang back, but I’ve never seen any. I think this is a tale old lags tell to frighten the children.
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Old Oct 5, 2022, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by HarryHolden68
If anyone is travelling BA to OTP in the next few weeks, I welcome any feedback on whether the international - international transfer "door" is operating for a back to back.

When the flights were booked, the Wiki suggested that this was a reasonable starting point for a TP run. More recent posts suggest that the route is closed and going land side is the only option which with no fast track security is far from ideal, even with a 60 minute turn around. I have the option of a VIP meet and greet service that will meet me at the aircraft door and return me to the gate. But at £120 each, that is a cost I would rather avoid.
Bumping this for anyone with recent experience to comment?
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Old Oct 11, 2022, 2:37 am
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Asking for a friend is is just about to book a B2B to BOD tomorrow to get over the line. BA 2788 arrives at 1930 but BA2789 does not go until 2140. 2h 10 on the ground seems a long time? Is this a genuine B2B and any issues we should be prepared for?
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