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This community maintained wiki lists out all known airports on the BA network grading each airport in terms of its practical suitability for quick flight transfers. Three transfer categories are considered (and indicated as traffic lights from left to right in the following order)

Back to back: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on the same aircraft that operated the inbound flight
Transfer: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on a different aircraft (or airline) to the one that operated the inbound flight
Landside: Full arrival and departure sequence. It is assumed check-in for the onward flight is processed prior to the arrival at the airport.

Grading:
Excellent generally means you will leave the aircraft and find yourself in the boarding area for departure.
Good suggests that you may have to clear either security and/or passports before reboarding, but it should still be possible.
Reasonable: suggests possible but with risks attached
Poor: high risk and not advisable
Ungraded

Two caveats:
A) Sometimes things don't go to plan. E.g. EDI sometimes uses buses, which puts passengers landside and thus needing to reclear security. Ditto HAM.
B) The above needs to be combined with the turnaround time. MXP often has a generous back-to-back time, for example.


ABZ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

ACE:
Back to back: Reasonable (if off season, there is a transfer channel just before passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

AGP:
Back to back: Excellent for Schengen, Risky if not. Schengen - immediate turnaround possible at gate area. Non-Schengen - there is a transit passageway back to airside on the left after passports, but there can be long delays at passports, achievable if you are willing to politely push in the queue. see here.

ALC:
Back to back: Reasonable if off season, but you do need to go fully airside if non Schengen. Small and efficient airport. Peak time: see here

ALG:
Back to back: Impractical due to visa and immigration processes.

AMS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally

ANE:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk. You may want to telephone the airport to let them know since there's no OLCI facility.

ARN:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82) * see posts 593, 238 & 1298 for more details

ATH:
Back to back: Reasonable but don't hang about, you need to enter Schengen immigration, then leave Schengen, and a fairly efficient security check. Distances aren't great.

BCN:
Back to back: Good to excellent (bit of a walk, small flight connection facility to the left of passport control, dedicated security but no passports; Transfer: Good (if non-Schengen), Reasonable (if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

BHD:
Back to back: Excellent (use stairs upwards between gates 5 and 6, against flow); Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIO:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIQ:
Back to back: Reasonable, involves going through passports to landside, security and passports again, but you need to be off early since passport checks are thorough.

BJV:
Back to back: Not really feasible, there is no online check-in or App facility, you must check in at the gate.

BOD:
Back to back: Reasonable but does involve going landside and back again. However it's a small airport and efficient.

BLL:
Back to back: Good (there is a clear transfer route after passport control to avoid a security check; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good

BLQ:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (bus gates)

BRI:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BSL:
Back to back:: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Bit of a walk to landside, but it's not a huge airport. See this post for info)

BRU:
Back to back: Excellent on the transfer route, reasonable if not; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Poor (see comments in post #246 , also 64 onwards)

CAG:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

CDG:
Hopeless!

CFU:
Back to back: Near impossible, no OLCI, you must present yourself at check-in. Process involves bus, passports, out to landside, short walk to departures building on right, security and bus. Security is bad on peak days

CGN:
Back to back: No OLCI, but on some dates it is still possible. See this post for details.

CHQ:
Back to back: Near impossible despite being a small airport, no OLCI so you can only get a boarding pass at the airport, and bus to and from gates

CMB:
Back to back: Excellent. Easy to do airside. Arriving and departing pax are not segregated. If you have your return boarding pass, just walk directly from arrival gate to departure gate.

CMF:
Back to back: Generally Good, involves going landside. Best avoid Saturdays, the main changeover day, when security is stretched.

CPH:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

CTA:
Back to back: Reasonable, there is a transfer route signed but seems obsolete. However small and efficient airport so still do-able if going via landside

DBV:
Back to back: Impractical. There's no online check in so you have to go landside and collect a boarding pass. Otherwise a very small airport

DUB:
Back to back: Good (if ex-LHR), Reasonable if ex-LCY (quicker plane turnaround); Transfer: Good if Common Travel Area, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. May require passing security, so Fast Track helps. See this post for a photo guide. (As of June 2017 increased risk due to pax segregation at 200 gates and ongoing building work)

DUS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate, though risk of bus to baggage hall

EDI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor; Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally, risk of bus to baggage hall

EGC:
Back to back: Impractical. Bergerac has its own check-in system and is currently not on App/OLCI, so boarding passes must be obtained in person, no later than 45 minutes before departure

FCO:
Back to back: Reasonable (return shuttle to main terminal); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

FDH:
Back to back: Impractical due to delays during ski season - see here.

FLR:
Back to back: Poor due to use of bus transfers and airport layout; Transfer: Poor (no transfer track}; Landside: Reasonable

FNC:
Back to back: Reasonable due to small airport and long turnarounds. You do need to go landside and return to airside. Note high risk of weather related diversions. Bus from aircraft, passports, security, passports, walk to aircraft.

FRA:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Poor (particularly if coming off Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

FSC:
Back to back: Uncertain - if boarding passes can be issued in advance then it will be an easy landside transfer in a tiny airport. If boarding passes can only be collected in FSC then it's impossible.

FUE:
Back to back: Reasonable if out of the peak season, airbridges used. Have to go via passports landside and security, behind check in. Try Canaries+Families security if desperate.

GIB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Must go landside, bearing right and back up through security. Turnaround can be long. Leave the aircraft early so as to beat the queue at passport arrivals.

GLA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.

GNB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good: Walk to/from aircraft. Must go landside, outside and right back into departures. Long turnaround times make this feasible though Saturdays busy.

GOA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

GOT:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

GVA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (but can be poor during ski season). Turn left in arrival lane to go back up to departures area.

HAJ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate. See posts 1670 and 1671 below.

HAM:
Back to back: Very Good to Excellent - transfer security check (not busy, before immigration) then immediately back into the departures area; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals and departures are now separated, and very occasionally bus to baggage hall.

HEL:
Back to back: Good: Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Incoming passengers can reverse direction just before Schengen passports. If a bus from gate, you will need to rush.

HER:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, it's a bus transfer and arrivals / departures are in separate buildings.

INN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside, and there is a bus transfer to/from the aircraft, but the airport is very small and highly efficient.

INV:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside and through security. See here for more info.

IOM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport)

IST:
Placeholder for new airport

JER:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall, sometimes you need to double back to the BA lounge.

JMK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

JTR:
Back to back: Impossible: bus transfer, slow passports.

KEF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non Schengen, Good otherwise; Landside: Good. BA flights tip arriving passengers into the departure gate. Foolproof. NB LCY flights pax use a bus from a remote stand, still easy as dropped off less than 100M from the departure gate.

KLX:
Back to back: Moderately risky due to boarding passes only being issued at check-in. No buses used normally, walk off plane straight into very small building.

KRK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

LBA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Have to go landside for any connection or b2b but small airport, see here for further details

LCA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a "Connecting Flights" channel on the left of the arrivals corridor, half way along, well before passports.

LEI:
Back to back: Moderate to risky: you have to go via landside, and you need the return boarding pass before travel. But it's a small and efficient airport. No buses are used, it's similar to LCY in operation.

LHR T3:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Follow connecting flights route, which can be as quick as 11 mins from disembark to through security. No conformance unlike T5. see here.

LIG:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for more information

LIS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a security check to the right, immediately before and avoiding the passport desks. Risk of bus gates, but still OK.

LIN:
Back to back: Not a good place due to bus transfer and needing to go fully landside; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)

LPA:
Back to back: Possibly OK if off peak. Some flights are bus gates, but it's a relatively small and efficient airport. OLCI and App check in both work.

LUX:
Back to back: Very Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Landside route is described here: Airside transfer door described here.

MAD T4:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal. Landside: Reasonable See this post for full details.

MAH:
Back to back: Good to excellent, see post number 563.

MAN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor

MCT:
Back to back: Excellent - direct transfer route

MJV:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good provided you avoid a peak time More information here.

MLA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. This this post and linked blog for details.

MRS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. There is a transfer and security point just before going down to passports. Use the phone on the post to ask for it to be opened it for you; however, there is no guarantee that it will and you may have to exit to landside and re-enter through departures security.

MUC:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good but note 2 terminals; Landside: Good. Transfer point after passport, details in this post

MXP:
Back to back: Good (bit of walk to Transfer facility); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Thread links here.

NCE:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Poor; Landside: Good. There is a direct transfer route by turning into the door way on the right before the slope up to passports

NCL:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

NTE:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. see this post.

NUE:
Back to back: Impractical unfortunately due to no OLCI, all check in done at the airport

OLB:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Arriving into Olbia is via jetty to the departure gate, no passports or security. Note no OLCI via the App, more info here.

ORK:
Back to back: Good, do need to clear passports and security but very small and efficient airport.

ORY:
Back to back: Not recommended due to fast turnarounds on LCY services. You have to go fully landside and back in again, via 2 passport checks and a security check.

OPO:
Back to back: Excellent (Look for grey escalator going up); Transfer: Good (reasonable if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

OTP:
Back to back: Excellent as at April 2019. Poor as of 29 Dec 18; Transfer: Excellent (See post #1919); Landside: Good to Reasonable. Look for Connection facility on right after leaving aircraft (can be Good if all everything works)

OSL:
Back to back: Good on the whole; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. (See experiences in this post, this post, this post and this post.)

OVD:
Back to back: Not really suitable. This is really an Iberia Express route but leaves T5 under BA code. The aircraft is based in OVD not LHR. Small efficient airport though.

PFO:
Back to back: Good on the whole, but you do need to go landside. However it is a small airport. May not be so good on a busy Saturday during school holidays. Note bus transfers however.

PMO:
Airport is currently being rebuilt. Once completed potentially a good option due to airbridge. Departure security is two floors above arrivals (use lift)

PMI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof - you are landed direct into boarding area

PRG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. For back-to-back the LHR-PRG arrival dumps you right into the main corridor of that pier; walk 100 ft. to security check for the BA boarding lounge and you'll be good to go.

PSA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (not the best location since there are a lot of LCC and you have to reclear security from landside). (August 2018 review and comment)

PUY:
Back to back: Unrealistic, due to the bus transfer process followed by passport control.

RAK:
Back to back: Terrible; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. See post #1353 below

RHO:
Back to back: Infeasible - no OLCI or App check in, bus transfers from gates. Also airport very busy on Saturday PM and Sunday AM.

RTM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Reasonable during morning/evening peaks)

SEZ:
Back to back: Excellent. Use the Transit desk at the right side of the immigration hall, opposite end to passport control, see this post.

SKG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Note bus transfers on apron.

SOF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure area.

SPU:
Back to back: Reasonable but there is a bus transfer and then landside; Transfer: Reasonable but transfer routes seems to be from Star Alliance; Landside: Reasonable

STR:
Back to back: Reasonable (stairs from baggage hall back to security. Can't avoid security/passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Report here.

SVG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof, though only restricted number of flights

SVQ:
Back to back: Reasonable but need to exit landside and go up through departures, security. and passports is by the gate. Compact airport, fast security even if queuing.

SZG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. No transfer channel and note bus transfers, but small airport.

TFS:
Back to back: Reasonable but in all cases involves going landside. May be tricky to reclear security in peak holiday season.

TIA:
Back to back: Probably impractical. There is a bus transfer process and passport checks/stamps takes a while (Albania isn't in the EU).

TLL:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. see this post.

TLV:
Back to back: At your own risk. There is a transfer route with security on the way to passport control just after the rotunda.

TNG:
Back to back: No transfer or B2B route. Have to pass immigration, customs and security again. Airport is tiny (think 10 flights a day) and B2B is perfectly doable provided no problems at immigration.

TRN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. No short cuts to avoid going landside via passports x2 and security, apart from Fast Track security, but a small and efficient airport.

TXL:
Back to back: Good (security takes place in limited area by arriving gate); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Security is at gates, if using A gates. NB: Currently, this usually includes LCY flights, which now mostly use A gates like LHR flights.

UIP:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk.

VCE:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good at off-peak times; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for details

VIE:
Back to back: Excellent (BEWARE: see here); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

VLC:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go via landside. Departures is straight up from the arrival point. Disagree with the previous two sentences. For me, a direct turnaround from gates 12-14 was possible without going landside. Took less than a minute.

VNO:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arriving passengers enter departing passenger area. [BA have codeshare and also has TP Run options via AY]

VRN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go landside but it's a very small airport and there is Fast Track.

WAW:
Back to back: Good (small connection facility on left after airbridge); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

ZAG:
Placeholder for new terminal

ZRH:
Back to back: Generally good but see this post and the replies for more information.

ZTH:
Back to back: Infeasible due to buses and no online check-in possibilities. Somewhat unfortunate given the small airport. No transfer route, you must enter Schengen and go to landside.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 3:19 pm
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Although it's not strictly B2B, I have 2 hours between BA flights at AMS. With luggage, is it viable?
Bags can be very slow at AMS. My last trip there it took 30 mins between stepping off the plane and the bag arriving in the carousel. This is the norm.

And AMS is a bag dropped at check-in by 60 mins not 45 mins airport so you'd have 30 mins to get from Arrivals to Departures 3 which you can do in about 5-10 mins but you'd have very little slack if your inbound was delayed.



And @propsero - yes I think much clearer.
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II would say that is viable but very risky.

The combination of long walks, immigration and waiting for bags, you would need your inbound flight to be perfectly on time for success.

Are you you switching between London airports as part of this adventure?
Unfortunately not. The route is CTS-NRT-LHR-AMS-LHR with a 1.5 hour stop at LHR and 2 hour stop at AMS. There are two of us, so if we are running late on the AMS inbound I'll get my other half to switch to a proper B2B, collect all the luggage, and come back the next day. My booking is an avios booking, hers is club but was just hoping we could both get on the flight on the same day.

I might be able to convince the JAL staff at CTS to short check our luggage to LHR, then she can do the AMS loop and I can just wait for her.
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Old Apr 9, 19, 4:47 am
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There are two of us, so if we are running late on the AMS inbound I'll get my other half to switch to a proper B2B, collect all the luggage, and come back the next day. My booking is an avios booking, hers is club but was just hoping we could both get on the flight on the same day.
And what are you going to do if your LHR-AMS is on time, but you only discover when you're at the baggage belt that there is some unexpected delay to baggage delivery? I think I know the answer, but you'd have to make sure that you have a plan that you're comfortable with, and that you know the time when your partner will have to abandon you to complete the circuit and head for the AMS-LHR flight.
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I might be able to convince the JAL staff at CTS to short check our luggage to LHR, then she can do the AMS loop and I can just wait for her.
You'd still have to hope that the risks in a 2-hour break at AMS don't materialise. There are still probably more risks in doing that than in doing a back-to-back.
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Old Apr 9, 19, 5:07 am
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And what are you going to do if your LHR-AMS is on time, but you only discover when you're at the baggage belt that there is some unexpected delay to baggage delivery? I think I know the answer, but you'd have to make sure that you have a plan that you're comfortable with, and that you know the time when your partner will have to abandon you to complete the circuit and head for the AMS-LHR flight.
I spoke with her last night. Plan is that if the luggage is held up, she's going to continue the loop and go out back in for the return. She has 2 hours, which I think is reasonable without luggage. She will probably head to the check in desks directly from immigration and wait for me there. If I don't make it, she'll check in and go through. I'll just rebook for the next day with all the luggage.

You'd still have to hope that the risks in a 2-hour break at AMS don't materialise. There are still probably more risks in doing that than in doing a back-to-back.
I considered just putting the luggage on my ticket, asking for it to be short checked at LHR and dropping the last leg and staying with the luggage until she come back. I'm less likely to do this though, because it's quite premeditated and could cause problems with BA.
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Hello. Planning on a B2B turnaround to retain Exec Level. I am only 45 point short and BA kindly gave me 2 weeks grace.I have in the past done LCY-> AMS b2b and found it easy. But right now, the flights for AMS are expensive and the cheapest is a LCY -> EDI BA2216 out and coming back on BA2217. Seems to be the same plane. (lands at 12:50, departs at 13:30)Never been to EDI and don’t really know what to expect or if the 35min is enough for a b2b. I see comments that its excellent for a immediate turnaround, but then seen comments about being bussed to baggage. I have no idea how often that happens and if it does, can I make it back to the gate in time?Your advice/experience would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
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the cheapest is a LCY -> EDI BA2216 out and coming back on BA2217. Seems to be the same plane. (lands at 12:50, departs at 13:30)
That should not be a bus gate so I think that will be fine for your purposes. You should have time for a swift drink in the lounge since the usual LCY gates are near to it. But consider a day out in Edinburgh, by perhaps buying a Plus ticket on the return leg, which will give you the flexibility to decide on the day. Greetings from the spring sunshine in Waverley station!
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Hi All,

Just looking for some advice on LHR-DME-LHR (b2b) from anyone who's done this successfully?

Having done some research it seems very clear that doing this without a visa is a complete no-go these days, otherwise there's little chance of even getting on the outbound!

So I'm wondering if anyone has done this successfully, with a visa, and if there is anything to watch out for which could spoil the plan? What I'm most worried about is not being able to check in for the return flight either at home or at LHR before boarding the outbound. If this happened, would there be any chance of being offloaded from the return as a no-show, if for instance the outbound was badly delayed?

Btw I would be looking at the BA233/232, which has a 90 min turnaround in DME.

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I considered just putting the luggage on my ticket, asking for it to be short checked at LHR and dropping the last leg and staying with the luggage until she come back. I'm less likely to do this though, because it's quite premeditated and could cause problems with BA.
Didn't you say your booking was avios ? In which case there isn't the same issue about dropping the last leg.
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Has anyone done a b2b in OSL when on a remote stand with a bus?

Currently stood at gate F25 waiting to get on the bus for the 1705 flight. Doing a b2b on Sunday and was wondering where the bus drops you.
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I understand the a B2B at INV is doable, has the recent talks of industrial action (which has been postponed) had any effect on the turnaround time?

I'll be doing a B2B at INV this Saturday - does school holidays make any difference to the time it takes to clear security again?
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Originally Posted by tjcxx View Post
Didn't you say your booking was avios ? In which case there isn't the same issue about dropping the last leg.
The full routing is:
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Both Paid Y: AMS-LHR-HND-CTS-NRT-LHR-AMS
Me Avios: LHR-AMS-LHR
Partner Paid J: LHR-AMS-LHR

I'd be dropping the last leg of the paid Y, so it might cause issues.

If I'm stuck at AMS with the luggage I'll wait in the airport and take the first flight back next morning using a staff standby ticket.
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Old Apr 11, 19, 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by citygourmande View Post
I understand the a B2B at INV is doable, has the recent talks of industrial action (which has been postponed) had any effect on the turnaround time?

I'll be doing a B2B at INV this Saturday - does school holidays make any difference to the time it takes to clear security again?
Having done a B2B on Sunday (7 April BA1470/1471) as I previously shared there was no issue in getting through security- 5 minutes max from disembarking from seat 2C, to being at the gate to catch the flight again. I would suggest sitting as far forward or as far back as possible as stairs have been put at the back of the plane too.
Depending on other flights leaving INV (around and after your BA flight) may result in queues at security but as a SCH you can use the fast track lane which effectively cuts in to the front of the queue.
INV is the only airport I have done B2Bs at so I can't compare to any other but I concur with the rating GOOD to EXCELLENT.
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Old Apr 12, 19, 12:14 am
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Having done a B2B on Sunday (7 April BA1470/1471) as I previously shared there was no issue in getting through security- 5 minutes max from disembarking from seat 2C, to being at the gate to catch the flight again. I would suggest sitting as far forward or as far back as possible as stairs have been put at the back of the plane too.
Depending on other flights leaving INV (around and after your BA flight) may result in queues at security but as a SCH you can use the fast track lane which effectively cuts in to the front of the queue.
INV is the only airport I have done B2Bs at so I can't compare to any other but I concur with the rating GOOD to EXCELLENT.
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Hi All,

Just looking for some advice on LHR-DME-LHR (b2b) from anyone who's done this successfully?

Having done some research it seems very clear that doing this without a visa is a complete no-go these days, otherwise there's little chance of even getting on the outbound!

So I'm wondering if anyone has done this successfully, with a visa, and if there is anything to watch out for which could spoil the plan? What I'm most worried about is not being able to check in for the return flight either at home or at LHR before boarding the outbound. If this happened, would there be any chance of being offloaded from the return as a no-show, if for instance the outbound was badly delayed?

Btw I would be looking at the BA233/232, which has a 90 min turnaround in DME.

Thanks in advance
I have done a b2b at DME about 1.5 years ago. I was able to get a bp on the app for the DME-LHR before starting the LHR-DME flight. If for whatever reason you can't do that you need to speak to BA at LHR and get yourself checked in before you fly to DME. At DME the process of doing the transfer was fairly simple, do not go through immigration but follow the signs for connections/transfers. You go to a separate room and do a security check and a bp & passport check and then come out in to the airside departures area.
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Old Apr 12, 19, 2:56 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
I have done a b2b at DME about 1.5 years ago. I was able to get a bp on the app for the DME-LHR before starting the LHR-DME flight. If for whatever reason you can't do that you need to speak to BA at LHR and get yourself checked in before you fly to DME. At DME the process of doing the transfer was fairly simple, do not go through immigration but follow the signs for connections/transfers. You go to a separate room and do a security check and a bp & passport check and then come out in to the airside departures area.
Thanks for your advice. I'm thinking maybe I should play it safe and just get a visa. I'd either do a b2b, and get back on the plane (with visa in case something goes wrong), or I'll just stay the night and see a bit of Moscow, which can only be a good thing! Either way I'll be sure to post my experience on here.
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