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81romeo Apr 5, 19 5:11 am

BA ticket - how to upgrade on an AA A321 Transcon from J to F
 
Hello Folks,

just wondering how to upgrade to F on an AA A321 Transcon - I always wanted to try the service and the "solo" seat in F. Route is JFK-LAX
I am currently ticketed in J (BA paper) - do you think this is something I can try once at the airport at JFK? Of course I am talking about a paid upgrade.

Any idea about how much those upgrades sell for?

Thank you!

Krisz Apr 5, 19 5:44 am

I think your problem would be that itís a BA ticket. In my experience AA agents are not too good with BA ticketing as they use Sabre. (Different from BA) if you go to terminal 8 I doubt anyone can process an upgrade. If you have time you can try to pop in terminal 7 and head for a BA ticketing desk (if itís open) or call BA.
AA will not comp upgrade anyone to F even if J is full. The only exception was when someone seat was broken in J and AA upgraded me to F. I would not count on that.

Krisz Apr 5, 19 5:52 am

Also service point of view not much difference almost the same food, etc. Seat if you just relaxing F seat is good as you have more storage and privacy. But sleeping I prefer the J seat. For me the box where my legs go in the F seat are too low and I keep hitting my legs when Iím turning.
I wouldnít pay too much for an upgrade as itís not really worth it.

VSLover Apr 5, 19 6:20 am

Well, the food isnt exactly the same. However its not vastly different.

The F seat is similar to the 77W J seat, but a bit tighter and the cushioning is definitely cheaper and not very comfortable. There was one instance I was in F, and J was quite empty so asked if I could take a nap in an empty J seat as I find that more comfortable for sleeping.

But the above notes are correct--AA has difficulties managing if on BA ticket and even if on my BA FF number instead of my AA lifetime sapphire number--it just really screws things up for them.

You of course can ask, but I'd expect the response to be a full ticket exchange which day of travel will be quite high, so in advance I'd give them a call to see what the current cost would be to upgrade with a new ticket because yes, AA do not upgrade to F on the transcons. I think a few years back they may have even stopped allowing us to use a system-wide upgrade from J to F (similar to gold upgrade certs). But its been a few years since I've been an AA emerald, so just dont try anymore!

Andriyko Apr 5, 19 7:00 am


Originally Posted by 81romeo (Post 30967239)
Hello Folks,

just wondering how to upgrade to F on an AA A321 Transcon - I always wanted to try the service and the "solo" seat in F. Route is JFK-LAX
I am currently ticketed in J (BA paper) - do you think this is something I can try once at the airport at JFK? Of course I am talking about a paid upgrade.

Any idea about how much those upgrades sell for?

Thank you!

Depending what fare you're on, you can either call BA and upfare (if it is a through BA fare from, say, London, it may be a lot, but if it is a standalone JFK-LAX fare then it might not be that much of a difference). Alternatively, you can do it at the airport. AA will have no problem processing an airport upgrade as it won't require re-faring. F cabins are often full on this route though despite AA elites not having complimentary access to them.

Andriyko Apr 5, 19 7:01 am


Originally Posted by Krisz (Post 30967311)

AA will not comp upgrade anyone to F even if J is full. The only exception was when someone seat was broken in J and AA upgraded me to F. I would not count on that.

Of course, AA operationally upgrades passengers to F when J/Y are oversold. But you're right that one should not count on that.

81romeo Apr 5, 19 7:13 am

Thank you very much for all your replies - I will try at the airport then :-)

On a separate note: I have heard there might be a chance for asking a Concierge Key transfer to the airplane or pick-up at the aircraft door on arrival? Could you explain what this would mean and confirm whether this can be requested? I will be landing on BA metal and flying onward on AA.

Thanks!

KARFA Apr 5, 19 7:28 am


Originally Posted by 81romeo (Post 30967484)
Thank you very much for all your replies - I will try at the airport then :-)

On a separate note: I have heard there might be a chance for asking a Concierge Key transfer to the airplane or pick-up at the aircraft door on arrival? Could you explain what this would mean and confirm whether this can be requested? I will be landing on BA metal and flying onward on AA.

Thanks!

you canít request it. If it happens it happens, but most likely it wonít. I have never had it, others seem to have more luck.

Krisz Apr 5, 19 7:35 am


Originally Posted by 81romeo (Post 30967484)
Thank you very much for all your replies - I will try at the airport then :-)

On a separate note: I have heard there might be a chance for asking a Concierge Key transfer to the airplane or pick-up at the aircraft door on arrival? Could you explain what this would mean and confirm whether this can be requested? I will be landing on BA metal and flying onward on AA.

Thanks!

I have the same status as you and never had any escort or anyone waiting even when I had a 1 hour 10 min connection in Boston from AA to BA. (Was of course same ticket) I think generally AA just see us as an AA Exp. I think the only way is if you are super important in BA system they can manually alert AA. As I said even Iím GGL with CCR I never fell in that super VIP category :) I guess if you call BA GGL line they might able to do something about that. Also in my experience AA doesnít do much for their own Concierge Key members either. They got early boarding before everyone else but most of the time I canít see anyone waiting for them at arrivals. International is different (and make more sense to cut through immigration etc).
Donít forget that as BA GGL you can visit the Flagship lounge on both departure and arrival as well. The LAX one during the day is a zoo though so I would get in town ASAP and have a proper lunch/dinner.

81romeo Apr 5, 19 7:36 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 30967515)


you canít request it. If it happens it happens, but most likely it wonít. I have never had it, others seem to have more luck.

Thank you KARFA, I will report back!

Krisz Apr 5, 19 7:42 am


Originally Posted by Andriyko (Post 30967456)
Of course, AA operationally upgrades passengers to F when J/Y are oversold. But you're right that one should not count on that.

yes what I meant was that Iíve seen F cabin half empty, J and Y full and people on waitlist denied to board as AA refused to move some J pass to those empty F seats. This is only true for the Transcon F and not the normal domestic F. And yes generally AA can sell those 10 seats quite easily for each flights.

VSLover Apr 5, 19 9:33 am

agreed with Krisz. I was a CK off and on but this was before they added other perks like transfers or pre-boarding. that said, weirdly the last half dozen transcons i've had with AA have yielded personal attention, car to gate at JFK, pre-boarding etc etc. i just chalked it up to random, non-busy days for AA if they were looking after a BA GGL (no CCR anymore) pax. basically, i don't expect anything, so i'm pleasantly surprised by all!

but no upgrades from J to F lol! (not that i want it)

Vasco Pridat Apr 5, 19 11:02 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 30967515)


you canít request it. If it happens it happens, but most likely it wonít. I have never had it, others seem to have more luck.

I just had a return ticket in J.. outbound was LHR LAX und return was LAX JFK LHR... why so ever the LAX JFK leg was in F - and i must say for me this felt def. different!
The flagship first dining in LAX is super exclusive.. nothing compared to the standard flagship.. very friendly and attentive staff and just super exclusive.. 4 people in the whole lounge.
and of course this 1 -1 config is more exclusive.. so also when you sit down.. it is more exclusive - specially when u travel by yourself.. the onboard service was .. lets say AA.. but nicer than the one JFK to LAX in in J..

still no escorting or special service despite being GGL + CCR and booked on F.. and transferring to that LHR flight..
I agree to that hit or miss theory and dont think you have to be super important.. I had 6 domestic AA flights last months.. and got one CK boarding treatment at JFK on a very late flight to MCO booked in Y.
nothing on the return. nothing in LAX to LAS or SAT to LAX or LAX JFK even in F.. :-)

and... I slept very well in that seat, too :-) if that feeling of exclusiveness is worth money over J ? I dont know.

Ajm1987 Apr 5, 19 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by Krisz (Post 30967561)

yes what I meant was that Iíve seen F cabin half empty, J and Y full and people on waitlist denied to board as AA refused to move some J pass to those empty F seats. This is only true for the Transcon F and not the normal domestic F. And yes generally AA can sell those 10 seats quite easily for each flights.

I got upgraded J to F on the JFK-LAX transcon last July. Very welcome surprise but agree the J seat is more comfortable (though I prefer privacy). I think storms had meant a couple of cancellations. Having gorged myself on meat and potatoes on the previous flights I neglected to try the Wagyu beef, opting instead for a cauliflower steak - I regret it to this day.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 5, 19 12:16 pm

You will only get a T7 to T8 transfer if the Concorde Team prevail on AA to do it, so essentially Revenue and Prem. I guess 4 Baftas and 1 Oscar will also suffice. AA don't work out of T7 normally. In the other had a T8 to T8 transfer nay get the CK team involved, even for bog-standard GGLers.


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