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Old Mar 27, 19, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by Flexible preferences View Post
Corrected that for you 'Climb' is quite an exaggeration don't you think?

There is a big difference between easily stepping over someone's lower legs (only whilst they are in bed mode) and needing to disturb your neighbour to exit your seat.
If you're over 6 foot then maybe it's an easy step, I'm 5 foot 6, which is 3 inches taller than the average UK female, and I don't find it easy to get out across my neighbour on BA. Describing it as a climb is not an exaggeration and I'm sure for anyone shorter it's really rather difficult.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by thatflyer View Post

3. Why is it the crew never say that food can be ordered at anytime. They try and always serve you altogether right after you have taken off.

My one F flight on BA was from SFO to LHR. Took off about 5pm local time. Was asked what time I wanted to eat at. I said in 2 hours (roughly 7pm local time of departure) and the crew member could not have made his disappointment more clear. He checked his watch dramatically and said "OK, so at 3am". I guess he was on UK time. He then ended up coming to me about 6.30pm local time asking if I wanted to start the meal now and then I had a very rushed meal experience with him practically hovering over me as it became obvious my meal service was delaying his getting to crew rest. He disappeared right after dessert and was not seen again until breakfast.

Ideas like "dine on demand" sound great on paper but if the crew make it obvious that they are unhappy when you use them, then what is the point.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 6:51 am
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What I don't understand is that so many of the issues with BA First are so easy to fix.
And largely seem due to the crew not delivering the service at the right standard.
Surely this is a "quick fix"?

How hard is it to hand out a hot towel or a pair of slippers? It's not rocket science...
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Old Mar 27, 19, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by m3red View Post


i think this is really poor - it canít be that hard. Ek do an amazing job at this - F bags 99% come off first.

saves a lot of time I arrival.

Is there not a distinction to be made here - BA do give F bags separate priority tags and they have always come out first on the belt in my experience..? The poster may be referring to something different but they definitely try to get them out first (noting that outstations occasionally ignore them)
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by thatflyer View Post
Though I have to say the quality of the actual suite on BA is much nicer than others.

All the trims are solid milled aluminium. Very nice.

I dislike the fake fake wood and gold bling on EK.
I think you may like the SQ A380 new suite. No bling in sight, spacious, and very nice service.

Originally Posted by thatflyer View Post
1. Why is it they never offer slippers? On both occasions I had to ask for them.
Please allow me to comment from experiencing what must be over 100 BA F sectors:

I believe the slippers have been on request for a couple of years.

2. On the return no medium sized PJs? Only large. Can’t be that difficult to ensure stock?
A known problem on the inbound to LHR, I find. Please have sympathies for those who take a Small but end up with a Large Having said that, it's often the Small and Large that seem to run out, rather than Medium.

3. Why is it the crew never say that food can be ordered at anytime. They try and always serve you altogether right after you have taken off.
Just ask to have it at a specific time. That's what I do. I have never had a negative response.

4. Never get offered chocolates or a hot towel
Chocolate do seem to be ignored if I don't have a tea/coffee after the meal. Hot towel is almost invariably offered though. I am not sure what the logic is but it does seem to happen rather often.

5. The toilet is always run out of something.
I can't say I recall having had that problem in F, but I tend to mention it if something seems close to running out. They should replenish things better, really. But it happens on all airlines. Even JL and SQ etc.

6. They should really allow the first passengers to disembark first.
They normally do, certainly did on most of the flights I've taken in F.

7. Does BA actually do priority baggage?
Not really. One of my major gripes with BA. It works at SIN/TYO/HKG in my experience though.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by WingsAroundtheWorld View Post
What I don't understand is that so many of the issues with BA First are so easy to fix.
And largely seem due to the crew not delivering the service at the right standard.
Surely this is a "quick fix"?

How hard is it to hand out a hot towel or a pair of slippers? It's not rocket science...
Slippers are on request only from a couple of years ago. I like them so I ask... and politely asking it's not rocket science either

P.S.
I know that I'm usually a low maintenance passenger, but I like BA F.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:28 am
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For the price you can sometimes get BA F for there really isn't much to complain about. Sure its not as good as EK F but its still a comfortable seat, and generally with good crew.

Ive only ever managed to get a real bargain fare on EK once.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:33 am
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Only flown EK 5 times in Y and J and found them to be good.

I'd probably fly them again if it suited me. What's the big deal?
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by Gatwick Alan View Post
For the price you can sometimes get BA F for there really isn't much to complain about. Sure its not as good as EK F but its still a comfortable seat
Sure, it's not a problem per se that BA F isn't as good as EK F. But it's more of a problem if the product isn't even consistently better than some C products (e.g., Qsuites).

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What's the big deal?
The quality of the F product seems to be very important even for people who rarely fly it. (I guess I have to include myself there haha.) At least that's my impression from another FF forum where I've been more active than here.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by NYLON Boy View Post
You must have been lucky to avoid the mid-J 747s then. They routinely disembark from door 2, so WTP and Club get out before F.
I have actually and on that occasion WTP did get out first, Club was held though
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Old Mar 27, 19, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Benj View Post

In 20ish BA F segments, theyíve never not held back other pax for F pax.

Similarly in on all my J experiences I canít remember not not having to wait for F.
On my EDI-LHR in J operated by QR during industrial disputes, as soon a as we came to a stand the curtain was drawn and no ET passengers were allowed to alight before the J cabin had. A nice touch had it been standard Euro-business where thereís little to differentiate once the wheels are back on the ground but seemed standard protocol for the QR cabin crew.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by cosmo74 View Post
If you're over 6 foot then maybe it's an easy step, I'm 5 foot 6, which is 3 inches taller than the average UK female, and I don't find it easy to get out across my neighbour on BA. Describing it as a climb is not an exaggeration and I'm sure for anyone shorter it's really rather difficult.
I can see how it may be more difficult if you are shorter, that's a fair point. However, it is unclear what you mean by 'climb'. Are you saying you don't take a step over your neighbour's legs to exit your seat then? Are you asking your neighbour to move for you? Or are you scrambling over their resting legs?
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Old Mar 27, 19, 9:06 am
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For a premium service, most things should be offered or at least mentioned that they are available, instead of having to be asked for, as most people wouldn't know what's available to ask for in the first place. Like champagne in galleries J. Otherwise they might as well just take everything away and say you can ask for things. It just gives the impression of being mean/lazy.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by thatflyer View Post



well didn't happen today and we all left in the central door at LHR.

And actually strangely by the by the time I got down the tunnel everyone from economy was already there! So they must have got their door opened first!

Exactly what happened on my last BA F flight on the A380 coming in from JNB.
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Old Mar 27, 19, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by Jermyn View Post
Exactly what happened on my last BA F flight on the A380 coming in from JNB.
Thatís because the jetty needs to be attached to the upper deck first.
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