Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Jul 18, 2019, 10:59 am
#31
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New York John F Kennedy gets new Club Suite
JFK will get the Club Suite on a refitted 777-200 (as per the thread LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards ) I would assume this is because of Virgin putting their seats on the JFK route too. BA would be foolish not to do the same on such a competitive and flagship route for both airlines.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
Jul 18, 2019, 11:09 am
#32
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Location: Cardiff, Wales
Programs: BAEC - Blue :-(
Posts: 119
JFK will get the Club Suite on a refitted 777-200 (as per the thread LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards ) I would assume this is because of Virgin putting their seats on the JFK route too. BA would be foolish not to do the same on such a competitive and flagship route for both airlines.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
Last edited by tinytraveller; Jul 18, 2019 at 11:11 am Reason: Wrong flight no entered!
Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 am
#33
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Posts: 1,448
It's the 1140 departure from LHR, I only have the AA flight number to hand, AA6207. I'm booked on this 28th October and seat plan in MMB is the A350.
Jul 18, 2019, 11:35 am
#35
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 285
JFK will get the Club Suite on a refitted 777-200 (as per the thread LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards ) I would assume this is because of Virgin putting their seats on the JFK route too. BA would be foolish not to do the same on such a competitive and flagship route for both airlines.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
Aug 9, 2019, 2:56 pm
#36
Join Date: May 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PLT, Marriott LTP
Posts: 493
Heard BOS will be getting a retrofitted 777 in Feb, Any idea which flight? I'm flying the 7:30 am to LHR (FL 238) in April and hoping to get the new seat.
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
Probably a dump question I asked the agent- if we upgrade then learn we get the new CS, can I down grade back to J.
Seems simple to me but I guess you can't. Would require a new booking or something and a lot fees.
What to do.....
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
Probably a dump question I asked the agent- if we upgrade then learn we get the new CS, can I down grade back to J.
Seems simple to me but I guess you can't. Would require a new booking or something and a lot fees.
What to do.....
Aug 9, 2019, 3:21 pm
#37
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Posts: 63,803
Heard BOS will be getting a retrofitted 777 in Feb, Any idea which flight? I'm flying the 7:30 am to LHR (FL 238) in April and hoping to get the new seat.
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
.
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
.
Aug 9, 2019, 3:46 pm
#38
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Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,427
Heard BOS will be getting a retrofitted 777 in Feb, Any idea which flight? I'm flying the 7:30 am to LHR (FL 238) in April and hoping to get the new seat.
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
Probably a dump question I asked the agent- if we upgrade then learn we get the new CS, can I down grade back to J.
Seems simple to me but I guess you can't. Would require a new booking or something and a lot fees.
What to do.....
Actually, I'm considering upgrading to first (seats are available) with avios but don't want to if we get the new seat.
Probably a dump question I asked the agent- if we upgrade then learn we get the new CS, can I down grade back to J.
Seems simple to me but I guess you can't. Would require a new booking or something and a lot fees.
What to do.....
Are you able to say where, how or when you heard this? Maybe then we can give a more helpful response. I have only heard JFK getting a refitted 777 with the CS.
Albeit by Feb we could have 2 or 3 refitted 777s flying about.
Aug 9, 2019, 4:00 pm
#39
Join Date: May 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PLT, Marriott LTP
Posts: 493
There are few sites out there reporting this, This is one
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
Aug 9, 2019, 4:01 pm
#40
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Location: BOS
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I'm not aware of a BOS switchover to CS, and the seat map on a random April date isn't showing that. If you "Upgrade Using Avios" from a revenue fare then you can cancel the UuA component and just lose $50 approx of the cash component. You would then be able to select a seat in Club World. If you are doing "Part pay with Avios" then you can't do this.
Aug 9, 2019, 4:04 pm
#41
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There are few sites out there reporting this, This is one
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
Aug 9, 2019, 4:22 pm
#42
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There are few sites out there reporting this, This is one
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/more-u...et-club-suite/
No specific flights yet so maybe it's just not know at this point.
Whilst there are sources that might suggest something is happening over there on DDMMYY, I would be sceptical and certainly not hedging a trip booking on it.
Aug 10, 2019, 1:51 am
#43
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Location: LHR
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 339
JFK will get the Club Suite on a refitted 777-200 (as per the thread LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards ) I would assume this is because of Virgin putting their seats on the JFK route too. BA would be foolish not to do the same on such a competitive and flagship route for both airlines.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
This commences 27th Oct as the winter schedule kicks in.
I have updated the wiki with more about which flights will have the new seats. Please do point out or edit any errors or additions, or possible changes to make it more friendly or informative.
The 777 refurb info there is very detailed. Anyone mind if I add that into this wiki? Info such as how many 777s have been refitted and when the next ones are due in is much more useful, especially once they enter rotations and you can't definitively tell the seat layout based on the aircraft (as you can today with A350-only).
Aug 10, 2019, 2:35 am
#44
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Scotland
Posts: 377
Got a 2-4-1 that we are looking to book for September 202 and considered trying to book the 772 NYC flight with CS or just stick to 747..
Aug 10, 2019, 5:20 am
#45
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Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Spire, Tastecard
Posts: 7,549
useful thread.
I am always weary of playing with the wiki for fear of breaking it but should (i'll have a stab) update it to reflect that DXB has been moved to 2nd Sept from early Oct.
I am always weary of playing with the wiki for fear of breaking it but should (i'll have a stab) update it to reflect that DXB has been moved to 2nd Sept from early Oct.