Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Mar 19, 2019, 11:45 am
#1
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FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Hello,
I thought I would start this thread and I'll add a wiki as I have sometime on hands at the moment.
As suggested in the general discussion about the new Club Suite, we are bound to get lots of "when or will I?" type queries about the new CS, so I thought I would start this thread for it.
Heres what we know so far:
Roll out (there 3 phases for roll out of the seat):
Phase 1:
I thought I would start this thread and I'll add a wiki as I have sometime on hands at the moment.
As suggested in the general discussion about the new Club Suite, we are bound to get lots of "when or will I?" type queries about the new CS, so I thought I would start this thread for it.
Heres what we know so far:
Roll out (there 3 phases for roll out of the seat):
Phase 1:
- The first aircraft to have the seat will be the Airbus A350 - being delivered summer 2019 (currently planned for July delivery)
- Short haul flights between LHR - MAD (unconfirmed dates or flights until delivery date is given by Airbus, 30 days prior)
- From Oct 2019 flights to Toronto (BA92/93) and Dubai (BA107/106)
- 3 more A350 (4 in total) to be delivered with the new CS.
- 2 x 777 will be refitted with the new CS
- Beginning in 2020 more of the long haul to be fitted with the new seat.
Last edited by rockflyertalk; Jul 18, 2019 at 11:04 am Reason: Add BA official info from ba.com
Mar 22, 2019, 7:44 am
#4
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slightly off thread, but is the Toronto route on the 92/93?? I went through the booking process and the later flight says dreamliner and the earlier flight doesn't given an aircraft type
Thanks
Thanks
Mar 22, 2019, 7:50 am
#5
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Mar 22, 2019, 7:52 am
#6
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I belive so. If says aircraft type not defined then it should be the A350
Regards
TBS
It does look excellent and look forward to trying it ( probably in 2020 depending on the 2020 rollout)
Mar 22, 2019, 8:02 am
#7
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Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 219
I can confirm it is the 92/93 flight numbers. Once the booking is made, the aircraft type is defined as 351 in MMB, with an appropriate seat plan.
Apr 7, 2019, 9:08 am
#8
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I’m just bumping this thread for those that will want to ask about the CS coming to their flight but also the info in wiki on this thread and in my first post may help and hopefully will be helpful to those want to know if they will get the all new CS.
I think will be helpful for all having a central place to ask the inevitable.
Happy flying.
I think will be helpful for all having a central place to ask the inevitable.
Happy flying.
Apr 7, 2019, 9:26 am
#9
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Posts: 7,464
This thread is a good step forward for the benefit for the forum, and thank you @rockflyertalk for starting it. Just one improvement would be to not just focus purely on which aircraft will have or not have the new Club Suite, since there are also many questions about which aircraft will be operating a poster's flight - for reasons such as wifi provision, which type of IFE, which version of WTP or even more odd if there is a specific livery on the outside. Could we make the scope of this good thread wider, in order to 'catch all' of these daily questions?
Apr 11, 2019, 8:25 pm
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While having no knowledge of internal workings of BA I would say not until a lot more aircraft are fitted out. Reasoning being, look at the direct competition. Although you can get EK and other connecting options which people may rate better than BA, the only "direct routing" competition is QF where they use the A380 which does not have direct aisle access.
You also need to look at fleet utilisation, from memory it takes 3 frames to do the route. BA would get a better rate of return with the limited frames by using the on routes which only require a single frame to operate.
You also need to look at fleet utilisation, from memory it takes 3 frames to do the route. BA would get a better rate of return with the limited frames by using the on routes which only require a single frame to operate.
Apr 12, 2019, 12:08 am
#13
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While having no knowledge of internal workings of BA I would say not until a lot more aircraft are fitted out. Reasoning being, look at the direct competition. Although you can get EK and other connecting options which people may rate better than BA, the only "direct routing" competition is QF where they use the A380 which does not have direct aisle access.
You also need to look at fleet utilisation, from memory it takes 3 frames to do the route. BA would get a better rate of return with the limited frames by using the on routes which only require a single frame to operate.
You also need to look at fleet utilisation, from memory it takes 3 frames to do the route. BA would get a better rate of return with the limited frames by using the on routes which only require a single frame to operate.
