Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Sep 17, 2019, 8:38 am
#76
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How far in advance do they normally announce the deployment of these new Club Suite planes? I am flying long haul on a number of occasions to and from the Far East in the coming 6 months. Can I assume that since there are no Far East flights currently announced through to March, that Club Suites are currently not planned to be deployed through to March?
The best advice I’ve had is to take a flight that suits your schedule and budget. Risking your schedule for a particular seat at such an early stage in the new CS implementation programme is probably not very wise.
Sep 17, 2019, 8:48 am
#77
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Four of us plus a baby (double 241) are in F on BA174 JFK-LHR in the 28th November.
Originally BA112 but got cancelled.
The seat map briefly changed to the new club seat format with 8 F seats and then back to 14 F seats.
On BA.com the flight shows the current 777 layout with 14F in my booking and first is sold out.
From what I can see on FR, BA174 is operated by the aircraft that operates BA177 LHR-JFK on the previous day.
BA.com is showing BA177 on the 27th as a new club seat 777 with 8 F seats.
I cannot find any flights on the 28th with the new seat.
Is it likely that my flight will actually be one with the new seat?
I'm conflicted on a potential downgrade should the aircraft change as it's my parents first F flight but the new club suites would be nice to try.
Originally BA112 but got cancelled.
The seat map briefly changed to the new club seat format with 8 F seats and then back to 14 F seats.
On BA.com the flight shows the current 777 layout with 14F in my booking and first is sold out.
From what I can see on FR, BA174 is operated by the aircraft that operates BA177 LHR-JFK on the previous day.
BA.com is showing BA177 on the 27th as a new club seat 777 with 8 F seats.
I cannot find any flights on the 28th with the new seat.
Is it likely that my flight will actually be one with the new seat?
I'm conflicted on a potential downgrade should the aircraft change as it's my parents first F flight but the new club suites would be nice to try.
9 across in Y is a giveaway too as these will eventually become 10 across.
I would stick with F. The F soft product is getting great feedback, well on FT at least.
Sep 17, 2019, 12:58 pm
#78
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 33
I'm not looking to downgrade but if the aircraft were to change it would likely have 14 booked in F with only 8 seats on the new aircraft so 6 people would need to be moved out.
Sep 17, 2019, 1:02 pm
#79
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: CEG
Programs: UA, BAEC, HH Gold, PC Plat, Marriott Silver.
Posts: 160
Seat map
Hi,
Booked on BA49 LHR-SEA on February 13th 2020. Cannot find a 777 seat map to match the one on MMB. J cabin starts at row 5 with 4 across, back to row 17, only exception is row 8 just one seat. Is this the new CS config ?
TIA
Booked on BA49 LHR-SEA on February 13th 2020. Cannot find a 777 seat map to match the one on MMB. J cabin starts at row 5 with 4 across, back to row 17, only exception is row 8 just one seat. Is this the new CS config ?
TIA
Sep 17, 2019, 1:18 pm
#80
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Sep 17, 2019, 1:19 pm
#81
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Sounds very much like it .
Regards
TBS
Sep 17, 2019, 4:32 pm
#83
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Yes apologies. 14F. We have no details yet of the 8F refurbed layout. So this definitely isn’t (as of today) a refurbed aircraft nor has the new CS. It could, however all change.
Sep 17, 2019, 9:11 pm
#84
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,677
Unless the new A350’s are deployed when they get delivered in the next 6 months, we don’t have much more info beyond Bangalore, then it’s a case of the refurb agenda also slotting into the equation which has one aircraft earmarked for the JFK route as of October 2019, with further refurbs to come but routes are unknown.
The best advice I’ve had is to take a flight that suits your schedule and budget. Risking your schedule for a particular seat at such an early stage in the new CS implementation programme is probably not very wise.
The best advice I’ve had is to take a flight that suits your schedule and budget. Risking your schedule for a particular seat at such an early stage in the new CS implementation programme is probably not very wise.
I'm gradually building up my lifetime tier points.
However, since I have many options, I will probably take SQ as I can't guarantee getting the new Club Suites.
Sep 17, 2019, 10:17 pm
#86
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Posts: 2,409
our first time in the new suite is LHR JFK in October - our flight is actually a bit earlier than the winter schedule start date, so others may be lucky too to get it before the winter schedule date. Its on the BA173.
And got it again in November, so pretty lucky I guess. I wasn't expecting to fly in the new seat till a year or so.
got 7 and 8 k both times. everything else was gone by the time i realised they had changed the seat map over.
Pretty excited as only seen it on the ground, not in action so to speak.
And got it again in November, so pretty lucky I guess. I wasn't expecting to fly in the new seat till a year or so.
got 7 and 8 k both times. everything else was gone by the time i realised they had changed the seat map over.
Pretty excited as only seen it on the ground, not in action so to speak.
Sep 18, 2019, 12:18 am
#87
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Posts: 578
I’ve booked a flight to HKG in the coming summer time. Not sure if there’d be any chance to get the new suite. Given the availability of F on this route, I guess 350 would be out of the radar... best bet would be those refurbished 77W!
Sep 18, 2019, 3:40 am
#89
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First 77W due to be refitted next July I think, plus 4 new frames due for delivery throughout 2020 with Club Suite. So if your flight remains a 77W, then yes there is a chance.
Sep 18, 2019, 3:43 am
#90
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Still looking slim. 77W is replacing super high J routes as it’s going on to have 72 J seats even more than 777x. Apparently JFK will be a mix of 77W and 77E