Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Sep 18, 2019, 4:56 am
#91
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: South East England
Programs: BAEC: Bronze, HHonors: Silver, Virgin Flying Club: Red, Miles & More
Posts: 334
Do you think it's feasable that for each 77W refitted / delivered with Club Suite next year, it will replace an existing JFK 747 route? If this happens then we could see JFK going all Club Suite by the end of the year.
Sep 18, 2019, 5:26 am
#92
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
I know the 4 77W coming Q3 2020 will most likely be going directly to JFK. And by August 2020 all 77E G-VII that operate out of Heathrow will have club suite which are the same aircrafts that operate JFK route now. So by the end of next year. JFK being all club suite is extremely likely
Sep 18, 2019, 6:34 am
#94
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
Possibly, be on the lookout. All current A350 routes are being shown as 3 class 777 with 48J after 29th March 2020. Seeing as Philadelphia is usually served by a super hi j 747 then I would say it may probably be an A350 swap. By the time your flight comes BA will have about 6 A350s
Sep 18, 2019, 7:27 am
#95
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 439
Thanks. I guess they could say they're doing this in case they need the swap instead of the fact they definitely will swap the aircraft.
Having said that, I can't see BA running a 3 class 777 on the route when they're already serving routes like BKK/EZE which probably won't get the A350
Having said that, I can't see BA running a 3 class 777 on the route when they're already serving routes like BKK/EZE which probably won't get the A350
Sep 18, 2019, 5:53 pm
#96
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,439
I know the 4 77W coming Q3 2020 will most likely be going directly to JFK. And by August 2020 all 77E G-VII that operate out of Heathrow will have club suite which are the same aircrafts that operate JFK route now. So by the end of next year. JFK being all club suite is extremely likely
If so, that will be a great shame after all these years and annoying as I want to go to NYC in the next few years.
Sep 18, 2019, 11:47 pm
#97
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
I know between now and the end of next year 3 super hi Js are going. One in November and the anoher two next year. So you may see one lingering in the JFK route, but even as you check now try and book a flight in June next year to jfk you’ll see that only 2 flights are operated by the 747 the first and the last. The remaining 6 are operated by 777s, so you may have one remaining by the end of the year by the the 77W comes in with probably 6/7 by the end of next year (including new arrivals)
Sep 19, 2019, 12:40 am
#99
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BA Bronze
Posts: 49
Was hoping my flight from HKG-LHR in May 2020 will get club suite, but reading thread I suppose both 77W and A380 will not be retrofitted yet. Oh well I guess I need to climb over someone to get to the isle.
Sep 19, 2019, 12:47 am
#100
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Scotland
Posts: 377
I know between now and the end of next year 3 super hi Js are going. One in November and the anoher two next year. So you may see one lingering in the JFK route, but even as you check now try and book a flight in June next year to jfk you’ll see that only 2 flights are operated by the 747 the first and the last. The remaining 6 are operated by 777s, so you may have one remaining by the end of the year by the the 77W comes in with probably 6/7 by the end of next year (including new arrivals)
Sep 19, 2019, 1:09 am
#101
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
Sep 19, 2019, 1:12 am
#102
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
77W starts next year but is moving to super high j routes. A380 not really sure if or when it will get the club suites. I don’t think BA themselves are sure
Sep 19, 2019, 1:13 am
#103
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
It would be a great shame to lose the 747 from the JFK route (seeing it operating on other routes instead). The 747 is my favourite way to travel between JFK-LHR with minimal fuss - bed down on wheels up and sleep all the way until 20mins out. I have not yet tried the new Club Suite personally, so I am unsure of its credentials for maximising sleep on these very short overnight sectors. I do have some trepidation that it may or may not fit the bill (I hope it does!), when comparing to 64A/K on the 747 UD where you can be almost guaranteed a decent sleep (assisted by a decent sleeping tablet). I will be giving the new Club Suite a try on a day 777 day flight in December, but this is not representative of an overnight sector. Anyway, interesting times ahead especially for those who depend on getting sleep onboard to function on arrival.
Sep 19, 2019, 3:21 am
#104
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,285
Well seeing that Emirates themselves has started scrapping some of their whales, it's not surprising. I assume BA will take maybe 5-6 years to retrofit 777s and 787s, maybe you can see the writing slowly appearing on the wall for the 380s with a retirement after that... (I'm simply conjecturing here, I have no inside info).
Sep 19, 2019, 3:31 am
#105
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,285
It would be a great shame to lose the 747 from the JFK route (seeing it operating on other routes instead). The 747 is my favourite way to travel between JFK-LHR with minimal fuss - bed down on wheels up and sleep all the way until 20mins out. I have not yet tried the new Club Suite personally, so I am unsure of its credentials for maximising sleep on these very short overnight sectors.