Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Jan 4, 2023, 10:43 am
#391
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 277
Ahh yes Club Suites, so amazing aren't they
You can do a dummy booking on BA to get as far as booking seats to see what the configuration is
BUT they do change planes (which is what I recently found out)
I booked (before I realised the dummy booking thing) and was disappointed with the old club suite at the seat selection stage, but after a few weeks have realised the plane has now changed and I have club suites!
When are you travelling? As if soon, maybe less likely to change but other experts will advise
You can do a dummy booking on BA to get as far as booking seats to see what the configuration is
BUT they do change planes (which is what I recently found out)
I booked (before I realised the dummy booking thing) and was disappointed with the old club suite at the seat selection stage, but after a few weeks have realised the plane has now changed and I have club suites!
When are you travelling? As if soon, maybe less likely to change but other experts will advise
Jan 4, 2023, 10:58 am
#392
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: MAN, PSP
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 208
Without cynicism, I love this post! It's so full of joy that we're all sometimes too jaded to express.
The Club Suites ( for that is what they are called ) have been discussed in many, many, many posts - so do a quick search for more information.
Without knowing the dates it's hard to advise which flights will feature them. The A380 service won't as they aren't ( yet ) being upgraded. Ditto the 788 and 789. Look out for the 777's which are currently being suite-ised - seem to be going quite fast but there are still plenty of the old ying-yang layout around. I don't think they put the A350 onto LAX but it does go to SAN and that has Club Suites too.
The usual caution - don't book a flight solely on the basis on the Suite; it's quite feasible that swaps will occur onto planes that may not feature them. Or conversely onto one which may!
Besides BA's timetable, AeroLopa ( https://www.aerolopa.com/ ) is a great resource and Google Flights makes quite a decent resource too. ExpertFlyer is also good for seeing the seating on particular flights. SeatGuru is not....
Enjoy your adventures!
The Club Suites ( for that is what they are called ) have been discussed in many, many, many posts - so do a quick search for more information.
Without knowing the dates it's hard to advise which flights will feature them. The A380 service won't as they aren't ( yet ) being upgraded. Ditto the 788 and 789. Look out for the 777's which are currently being suite-ised - seem to be going quite fast but there are still plenty of the old ying-yang layout around. I don't think they put the A350 onto LAX but it does go to SAN and that has Club Suites too.
The usual caution - don't book a flight solely on the basis on the Suite; it's quite feasible that swaps will occur onto planes that may not feature them. Or conversely onto one which may!
Besides BA's timetable, AeroLopa ( https://www.aerolopa.com/ ) is a great resource and Google Flights makes quite a decent resource too. ExpertFlyer is also good for seeing the seating on particular flights. SeatGuru is not....
Enjoy your adventures!
Jan 4, 2023, 4:02 pm
#393
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 44
Thank you!
Well next trip is in April and booking now to try and save.
True, planes for me changed 6 times for my last trip so no way of knowing. I wasn't expecting the "Club/Heaven Suites" so it was a lovely surprise!
Ok, thanks I'll do a search and may get lucky next time too
Well next trip is in April and booking now to try and save.
True, planes for me changed 6 times for my last trip so no way of knowing. I wasn't expecting the "Club/Heaven Suites" so it was a lovely surprise!
Ok, thanks I'll do a search and may get lucky next time too
Jan 5, 2023, 3:26 am
#394
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Posts: 816
Thats a bummer - my YYZ-LHR in June has now swapped from CS to a 787-8. Gutted as was really looking forward to trying out CS. Ho-hum, you win some, you lose some...
Jan 13, 2023, 7:28 am
#396
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That is certainly the intention, but until BA's long haul fleet is 100% converted then you can't rely on it. I would say it's the 95% position on NYC. The one clear exception is the LGW-JFK service which will be legacy CW for the time being. You can check the seat maps via dummy bookings or give precise flights and dates here for someone to check for you.
Jan 13, 2023, 7:30 am
#397
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Posts: 3,427
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post34653903
There is also a wiki here and thread, albeit not sure how up to date it is.
There is also a wiki here and thread, albeit not sure how up to date it is.
Feb 11, 2023, 1:46 pm
#399
Join Date: Jan 2023
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Posts: 97
Looks like they are flying A350s to Hong Kong over the spring and summer starting March. There’ll be 1 old club world 789 and 1 350 flight a day each way.
After hearing about the lack of 2 meal services on a350, and not flying over Russia means 14 hours with only one hot meal though. Hope they’ve thought of that.
After hearing about the lack of 2 meal services on a350, and not flying over Russia means 14 hours with only one hot meal though. Hope they’ve thought of that.
Feb 11, 2023, 2:28 pm
#400
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 212
I've really enjoyed the A350 every time I've been on it, so would be keen to use it next time I'm heading to HKG.
Feb 11, 2023, 2:41 pm
#401
Join Date: Jan 2023
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Posts: 97
Ah when did this start happening? I did LHR-GRU-EZE middle of last year and got two meals on LHR-GRU and a small meal on GRU-EZE, and IIRC the same on the way back.
I've really enjoyed the A350 every time I've been on it, so would be keen to use it next time I'm heading to HKG.
I've really enjoyed the A350 every time I've been on it, so would be keen to use it next time I'm heading to HKG.
”plans to use the A350 on the longest long haul routes had to be scrapped because of the inability to store the amount of food required”
https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...layout-failed/
Feb 11, 2023, 2:43 pm
#402
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I did LHR-GRU arriving yesterday on the A350. Two full meals, evening meal and full breakfast, details in the Club World Catering thread.
Feb 11, 2023, 2:57 pm
#403
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Feb 11, 2023, 3:08 pm
#404
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The newly direct BA245 service to EZE is a 787-9, however, so no CS. I note that tonight's service, which has just taken off from 27L was completely full in WT, WTP and CW, with all but 2 FLUB seats taken.
Feb 11, 2023, 5:00 pm
#405
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 212
The 789 CW will still be a nicer flight than the 777 was. I’ve got an LHR-EZE booked for later in the year, flight is always rammed so I’ve got my fingers crossed about the FLUB 🙂🤞🏼