Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Apr 13, 2019, 4:47 pm
#16
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Here’s my take on the when the CS might appear.
Senor C has said a new F Seat will be launched to ensure that F doesn’t look, let’s say out of place with the CS behind it. So with 2 x 777s being refitted with the New CS by Jan 20, will these 777 be 4 class and get the new F as well the CS? Which means BA can put these aircraft on routes that serve F.
I can see BA wanting to roll out F at the same time as the CS, because there can’t be many 3 class (No F cabin) aircraft in the LH fleet. The LGW 3 class are just completing their refit so I can’t see these getting the CS until last!
Or are the 777 already known for this year, i.e by the reg number and are 3 class?
Senor C has said a new F Seat will be launched to ensure that F doesn’t look, let’s say out of place with the CS behind it. So with 2 x 777s being refitted with the New CS by Jan 20, will these 777 be 4 class and get the new F as well the CS? Which means BA can put these aircraft on routes that serve F.
I can see BA wanting to roll out F at the same time as the CS, because there can’t be many 3 class (No F cabin) aircraft in the LH fleet. The LGW 3 class are just completing their refit so I can’t see these getting the CS until last!
Or are the 777 already known for this year, i.e by the reg number and are 3 class?
May 15, 2019, 12:01 pm
#17
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Tel Aviv
If you are flying to Tel Aviv, this route will get the new CS onboard the A350, this commences in Dec 2019 as per the wiki at the top of this thread.
Please see the other threads for the A350 info.
Flying BA’s Airbus A350: deliveries, routes, reviews and more
Please see the other threads for the A350 info.
Flying BA’s Airbus A350: deliveries, routes, reviews and more
May 15, 2019, 2:10 pm
#18
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
this link has the complete schedule for triple 777 (Heathrow) refits for the club world suite and the updated premium and economy cabin
this link has the complete schedule for triple 777 (Heathrow) refits for the club world suite and the updated premium and economy cabin
May 16, 2019, 7:26 am
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rb211.
May 16, 2019, 4:30 pm
#25
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I can see why threads of similar discussions seem at a bit overwhelming at this stage, I’m not particularly biased as I don’t really mind how people get there info in a public forum, but this seat is the biggest change to BA’s product for 20 years.
It’s a huge shift and change for their passengers (existing or new) and will become even more apparent once it’s in the wild. Like anything there will be passengers that (believe it or not) dislike the new Suite, there will be lovers who want to know if they can get it on their travel plan. That was the reason for this thread.
It’s only that the new CS is on the A350 for the first/launch flights that we have 2 or 3 similar thread contents, as the A350 is new for BA too but ultimately the new CS will be made available on other aircraft and people will want to know if they will have it on their flight.
Lets see see how this pans out but I’ll keep this updated for those that find it helpful.
It’s a huge shift and change for their passengers (existing or new) and will become even more apparent once it’s in the wild. Like anything there will be passengers that (believe it or not) dislike the new Suite, there will be lovers who want to know if they can get it on their travel plan. That was the reason for this thread.
It’s only that the new CS is on the A350 for the first/launch flights that we have 2 or 3 similar thread contents, as the A350 is new for BA too but ultimately the new CS will be made available on other aircraft and people will want to know if they will have it on their flight.
Lets see see how this pans out but I’ll keep this updated for those that find it helpful.
May 16, 2019, 4:42 pm
#26
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New CW ‘Club Suite’ Discussion Thread
The A350 discussion here:
Flying BA’s Airbus A350: deliveries, routes, reviews and more
and then this thread which will be for the people that ask the inevitable question... “I am flying to XYZ and wondered if I will get the new seat?”
Therefore there maybe a few threads but it breaks down the info quite nicely. Or do you have other suggestions?
Jun 15, 2019, 1:03 pm
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I suspect that until the first A350 is fitted, if it isn’t already, then they can gauge the timeline with a better insight into how this new suite and layout works and therefore understand how this all works going forward.
The next aircraft to get the new CS is the current 777.
I can see the 787 getting fitted later in the cycle due to the age of the product on the 787 is relatively newer compared to the 777s.
If you're looking for a definitive answer, there isn’t one yet. I suspect we shall know more by the Autumn.
The next aircraft to get the new CS is the current 777.
I can see the 787 getting fitted later in the cycle due to the age of the product on the 787 is relatively newer compared to the 777s.
If you're looking for a definitive answer, there isn’t one yet. I suspect we shall know more by the Autumn.
Jun 16, 2019, 10:04 am
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Flying BA’s Airbus A350: deliveries, routes, reviews and more
This thread is more about when the new business class seat is on an aircraft or route rather than about specific aircraft(s) or route(s).
Thanks