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British Airways has revealed the configuration for its Airbus A350-1000 (56J 56W 219Y):
  • 56 business class featuring all-new Club Suites
  • 56 premium economy
  • 219 economy
  • (BA maintains that no A350s will have first class)
Familiarisation flights to Madrid (starts August 6th):
First A350 flights have also been revealed:
  • 02 to 06 Sep, 09 to 30 Sep, and from 08 Oct 2019 daily to Dubai (DXB) - BA107/106
  • from 01 Oct 2019, daily to Toronto (YYZ) - BA92/93
  • from 01 Dec 2019, daily to Tel Aviv (TLV) - BA163/162
  • from 01 Jan 2020, daily to Bangalore (BLR) - BA119/118
  • from 01 Mar 2020, double daily to Dubai (DXB) - BA107/106 & BA105/104








More pics and details at https://www.ausbt.com.au/british-air...ess-class-seat

Flights planned to be operated by a A350

Summer 2021 (Updated: 9th February 2021)

Austin - Daily
Buenos Aires via São Paulo - Daily
Denver - Daily
Dubai - 3 x Weekly (Tuesday to Thursday)
Las Vegas - Daily
Newark - 2 x Weekly (Monday/Sunday)
Vancouver - Daily

Winter 2021 (Updated: 9th February 2021)

Bangalore - Daily
Boston - 9 x Weekly
BA213/212 - Daily
BA215/214 - 2 x Weekly (Mon/Sun)
Chicago - 2 x Daily
Mumbai - Daily (BA139/138)
San Diego - Daily
Tel Aviv - Daily (BA163/162)
Washington - 3 x Weekly (BA293/292 Tuesday to Thursday)
Vancouver - Daily

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Flying BA’s Airbus A350: deliveries, routes, reviews and more

   
Old May 17, 2019, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by wb1969
Might we see the A350 on the BKK route, or at least one of the 788s that are being displaced by the A350?

That would at least put an end to the negative comments about old and tired interiors and IFE on the 772s, even if the economy seats are dreadful on the 788.
Eventually, yes. I would say the state of the aircraft tends to reflect the importance level of the route in terms of revenue. I rarely go to BKK but it does deserve an aircraft upgrade even if it’s lower on the priority list.
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Old May 17, 2019, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by Royalscot
As of 1 Jan 2020 the A350 will be on the Bangalore route https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-15may19/
This is an odd decision. This is a route in which BA does not have any other competitors. Surely they could’ve improved their offering on other routes with much more competition...
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Old May 17, 2019, 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by gordo6

This is an odd decision. This is a route in which BA does not have any other competitors. Surely they could’ve improved their offering on other routes with much more competition...
Based on O&D, that’s true. For transfers, particularly to North America, the ME3 would be competitors out of BLR.
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Old May 17, 2019, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by gordo6

This is an odd decision. This is a route in which BA does not have any other competitors. Surely they could’ve improved their offering on other routes with much more competition...
It will also be down to frame availability. They will want to use the 4 frames they will have by then as efficiently as possible and presumably these 4 routes do that? The longer flights that would require more frames may not be the best utilisation initially.
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Old May 17, 2019, 5:11 am
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I just put the initial information from @djsflynn into a Wiki as well as the updated routes. Thought it would be easier to have above. Can be edited as more information or routes are released as well as the familiarisation plan for the MAD flights.
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Old May 17, 2019, 5:23 am
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BA seems more intent on putting the A350
and B77W on Madrid sectors or 787-9s and even the A350 to Moscow than offering one of the latest frames on the 12hr BKK! Anyone ever seen a tatty 1995 style 772 on a Madrid or Moscow?
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Old May 17, 2019, 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by kaizenflying
BA seems more intent on putting the A350
and B77W on Madrid sectors or 787-9s and even the A350 to Moscow than offering one of the latest frames on the 12hr BKK! Anyone ever seen a tatty 1995 style 772 on a Madrid or Moscow?
The issue is they will have only 4 frames by the end of 2019. One frame can't get to BKK and back in 24 hours so would require a "second" frame to alternate the days and also depending on the timings may not utilise them the best. That's my best guess. Also if one goes tech then the longer routes would cause more scheduling issues.

The A350 will go to MAD for familiarisation flights to MAD, only for a short period, to allow the crew to get to know the new aircraft. This happens with all new longhaul widebodies. The last two were 787-8s to ARN among a couple other routesreplacing 767 and also the A380 went to FRA I think.
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Old May 17, 2019, 11:58 am
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Do we have the flight numbers for LHR - MAD rotations already?
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Old May 17, 2019, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Rednacks
Do we have the flight numbers for LHR - MAD rotations already?
There have been conflicting reports. Some have said replacing the 777 rotation (BA461/460), others have said the first flight of the day (BA456/457).

I think the latter is more likely due to it being reported as capped at the A321 capacity to allow for swaps without worry. This suggests the 777 rotation will remain.
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Old May 17, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by kaizenflying
Anyone ever seen a tatty 1995 style 772 on a Madrid or Moscow?
You mean the aircraft configuration that doesn't have WTP and still has Club World Cradle seats? No, and they don't go to BKK either…

Here's where the non-ER 772s go, according to theBAsource:

B777-200 | The BA Source
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Old May 18, 2019, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by george77300
There have been conflicting reports. Some have said replacing the 777 rotation (BA461/460), others have said the first flight of the day (BA456/457).

I think the latter is more likely due to it being reported as capped at the A321 capacity to allow for swaps without worry. This suggests the 777 rotation will remain.
Thanks, I think I won't take any risk and wait for BA further announcements.
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Old May 18, 2019, 11:12 am
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Dubai flights BA105/4 are showing as a350 operated from 1/2 March 2020, in addition to the BA107/106 rotation
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Old May 18, 2019, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by kaizenflying
BA seems more intent on putting the A350
and B77W on Madrid sectors or 787-9s and even the A350 to Moscow than offering one of the latest frames on the 12hr BKK! Anyone ever seen a tatty 1995 style 772 on a Madrid or Moscow?
c.2000, but yes, twice (and I'm sure it has been operated by one many more times!)

DME doesn't see 777s.
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Old May 18, 2019, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by JAXBA
You mean the aircraft configuration that doesn't have WTP and still has Club World Cradle seats? No, and they don't go to BKK either…

Here's where the non-ER 772s go, according to theBAsource:

B777-200 The BA Source
The non-ER 772s are actually refurbished, IIRC. The ones that aren't tend to be - perhaps are all - in the YMM series.
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Old May 18, 2019, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Flyerphil
Dubai flights BA105/4 are showing as a350 operated from 1/2 March 2019, in addition to the BA107/106 rotation
Thanks for the info. Also updated in the Wiki. ^
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