Mar 18, 2019, 4:12 am
Last edit by: JAXBA
For the discussion on if/when the new seat will be on (insert flight/route here), please see the companion thread here: British Airways Club Suite 2019 - (When) Will I get the new seat on my flight?
On 18 March 2019, British Airways announced its new Club World seat:
Images: British Airways
BRITISH AIRWAYS WELCOMES ITS NEW A350 AIRCRAFT AND UNVEILS ITS NEW BUSINESS CLASS 'CLUB SUITE'.
360 degree view of cabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=dYJgVnHyDqA
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vQ9XUNnvkvg
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109862
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109870
On 18 March 2019, British Airways announced its new Club World seat:
Images: British Airways
BRITISH AIRWAYS WELCOMES ITS NEW A350 AIRCRAFT AND UNVEILS ITS NEW BUSINESS CLASS 'CLUB SUITE'.
360 degree view of cabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=dYJgVnHyDqA
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vQ9XUNnvkvg
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109862
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109870
New CW ‘Club Suite’ Discussion Thread
Mar 18, 2019, 9:23 am
#166
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
my understanding is that the system juggles a variant on the balance between the classes right to the last possible point.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:26 am
#167
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: PHX, SEA
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The seat and side storage look like the AA seat which I love (second only to JAL among the business class flights I've taken), so bravo there! It will make the JV less of a guessing game if it ever makes it in a retrofit. I wonder how pricing will reflect it being 4 across instead of 7 or 8 across.
But I still struggle with the doors that they added (same with Delta). The AA seat without a door is still very private while seated (staggered and nice shell blocking views). Even with a door, anyone walking by can still see you while standing.
But I still struggle with the doors that they added (same with Delta). The AA seat without a door is still very private while seated (staggered and nice shell blocking views). Even with a door, anyone walking by can still see you while standing.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:26 am
#168
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Mar 18, 2019, 9:26 am
#169
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The Dining Table. I see one runner on the side for deployment, with apparently a flip-over 2nd section. One could guess these will become as wobbly as the current iteration. Time will tell.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:28 am
#170
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 2,949
Nice – but it appears that there is only around 5" between the front corner of the seat and the back shell of the row in front.
On American, there is around 8" of space.
This will make for a tight fit walking in and out of the mini-suite.
On American, there is around 8" of space.
This will make for a tight fit walking in and out of the mini-suite.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:30 am
#171
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Mar 18, 2019, 9:35 am
#172
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I think the seat will be very popular for people travelling on their own, less so for people travelling in twos or with a family, I haven’t seen anything about bassinets for infants, what do other airlines with similar seats do?
Mar 18, 2019, 9:38 am
#173
Join Date: May 2003
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I am genuinely torn at this. Happy because this looks like a real step change forwards, and in a climate of (mostly) penny pinching it is very welcome to see. But a bit sad because I remember how prolonged the roll out of previous CW and NF seats has been, and the lottery of "will I/won't I" whilst it happens.
According to ba.com six aircraft (4x350 and 2x777) will be fitted with these seats by the end of this year. That suggests complete roll out will take some time (a quick tot up of BA's A380s, 777s, and 787s comes to 99 aircraft).
Mar 18, 2019, 9:44 am
#175
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
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I don't know which AA seat you have in mind (they have so many now), but the space between the front corner of the seat and the back shell of the row in front on their B772s (Super Diamond seats) feels much tighter than 8". This is one of the reasons I don't like these seats - I am slim but I found it uncomfortable to get into/out of that seat. Lifting my leg in the current CW is nothing in comparison. Seats on AA B773 are better from that perspective.
Last edited by Andriyko; Mar 18, 2019 at 10:56 am
Mar 18, 2019, 9:47 am
#176
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: BA, AA, SQ, UA, AC, WS, MR TIT
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It is so sad to see BA is just copy and paste the C class seat of other airlines like AC, QR, AA and just changing fabrics and adding a door 
I was expect BA to introduce a revolutionary seat from scratch not a seat that has been in the market now for almost 6 years with little modifications.
In addition, they fell in the same trap of getting the table position too low that when the seat is in the bed position your keens will hit the table edge frequently making sleeping (especially when you sleep on our side) inconvenient
Frankly speaking, I am not impressed.
I was expect BA to introduce a revolutionary seat from scratch not a seat that has been in the market now for almost 6 years with little modifications.
In addition, they fell in the same trap of getting the table position too low that when the seat is in the bed position your keens will hit the table edge frequently making sleeping (especially when you sleep on our side) inconvenient
Frankly speaking, I am not impressed.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:51 am
#177
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,412
So no doubt its a balancing act over the next 3 years to get right. It will certainly be entering to see how it develops. Qatar apparently have 41 aircraft with QSuites fitted, 2 years into the rollout.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:53 am
#178
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Location: JAX
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I've read something, somewhere (in all the pages I've read today), that the BSCT positions will be at the front bulkhead, and the the BSCT will go above the footwell (so presumably above/behind the TV). A somewhat elevated position perhaps?
I'm going to guess I read it on HeadforPoints
Indeed I did: https://www.headforpoints.com/2019/0...-suite-review/
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I'm going to guess I read it on HeadforPoints
Indeed I did: https://www.headforpoints.com/2019/0...-suite-review/
What about families with babies?
Bassinet seats will still exist. Whilst it wasn’t part of the VR simulation, the second of the two A350 Club Suite cabins has space for bassinets to be attached in front of the first row of suites.
Bassinet seats will still exist. Whilst it wasn’t part of the VR simulation, the second of the two A350 Club Suite cabins has space for bassinets to be attached in front of the first row of suites.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:55 am
#179
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
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Posts: 3,412
It is so sad to see BA is just copy and paste the C class seat of other airlines like AC, QR, AA and just changing fabrics and adding a door
I was expect BA to introduce a revolutionary seat from scratch not a seat that has been in the market now for almost 6 years with little modifications.
In addition, they fell in the same trap of getting the table position too low that when the seat is in the bed position your keens will hit the table edge frequently making sleeping (especially when you sleep on our side) inconvenient
Frankly speaking, I am not impressed.
I was expect BA to introduce a revolutionary seat from scratch not a seat that has been in the market now for almost 6 years with little modifications.
In addition, they fell in the same trap of getting the table position too low that when the seat is in the bed position your keens will hit the table edge frequently making sleeping (especially when you sleep on our side) inconvenient
Frankly speaking, I am not impressed.
As per the Business Traveller review of this seat...
What about the table?
Much better. It’s been designed so that it won’t flex when you work on it or rest on it. It comes out from beneath the IFE screen and is a bi-fold table so doubles in size. It’s also been designed so you can push it away and exit the suite without having to take your items form the table. BA has also worked on allowing the table to be pushed further under the IFE screen so that when the bed is fully reclined you can turn over without your hip catching the edge of the folded up and recessed table.
Finally, there is an arm rest which can be pushed down during the flight to make more room. Unlike some versions of the seat, this does not have a storage space beneath it.
Much better. It’s been designed so that it won’t flex when you work on it or rest on it. It comes out from beneath the IFE screen and is a bi-fold table so doubles in size. It’s also been designed so you can push it away and exit the suite without having to take your items form the table. BA has also worked on allowing the table to be pushed further under the IFE screen so that when the bed is fully reclined you can turn over without your hip catching the edge of the folded up and recessed table.
Finally, there is an arm rest which can be pushed down during the flight to make more room. Unlike some versions of the seat, this does not have a storage space beneath it.
Mar 18, 2019, 9:55 am
#180
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: T' North West
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Posts: 654
I've read something, somewhere (in all the pages I've read today), that the BSCT positions will be at the front bulkhead, and the the BSCT will go above the footwell (so presumably above/behind the TV. A somewhat elevated position perhaps?
I'm going to guess I read it on HeadforPoints.
I'm going to guess I read it on HeadforPoints.