Why oh why oh why? [Warm cabin]

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Old Mar 15, 19, 5:45 pm
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Why oh why oh why? [Warm cabin]

Are BA cabins so warm?? I know itís not news, and Iíve read many of the previous threads. Taxiing right now on BA 216 and itís a sauna. I get that on stand itís APU power and I asked politely if they can keep it down tonight. They explained that they canít control temperature for about 20 mins after take off! Never heard that on other airlines who donít broil you through the night. Itís enough to make you fly American!
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Old Mar 15, 19, 6:10 pm
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If itís a 747 then that doesnít sound too far off. The temperature on the ground is always a challenge to control, and it takes a little while after departure to get it to come down. Though even saying that the 74 is a nightmare to keep at the right temp at the best of times, even whilst airborne.
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I always find BA cabins unbearably cold! I had to ask for another blanket in my last flight. East Asian carriers tend to be a lot warmer.
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I find the lounges much too warm also.
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I think temperature preferences vary a lot and whatís freezing for one is just right for another whilst what is a sauna for one is just comfortable for someone else.

iíve caught colds on many a ba flight including the cold Iím having right now. And no, itís not easy to keep warm with those small and thin blankets even wearing a warm pyjama and a jumper...

in short, I donít recognise ba planes as being abnormally warm (jl planes are the ones too warm for me but I suspect many Japanese passengers consider them just right. Conversely, I freeze on your typical aa flight but many Americans love it...)
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I think temperature preferences vary a lot and whatís freezing for one is just right for another whilst what is a sauna for one is just comfortable for someone else.

iíve caught colds on many a ba flight including the cold Iím having right now. And no, itís not easy to keep warm with those small and thin blankets even wearing a warm pyjama and a jumper...

in short, I donít recognise ba planes as being abnormally warm (jl planes are the ones too warm for me but I suspect many Japanese passengers consider them just right. Conversely, I freeze on your typical aa flight but many Americans love it...)
Side note. You can't catch a cold virus from being cold. Nor does cold temperature make you any more likely to become infected. The only way to catch a cold virus is to catch it from another person who has it. The temperature is completely irrelevant from a scientific perspective.
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You canít win this one. One person is cold - another is too hot. If itís hot, take something off. If youíre cold ask for a blanket Itís not rocket science 🙄🙄

Thereís hot and thereís stuffy. Itís not the same thing.
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Old Mar 16, 19, 2:34 am
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Itís so difficult for the crew to get right. Iíve had many flights where Iím up and down adjusting the temperature as different points of view keeping flooding in. As mentioned above, the B747 is hardly worth adjusting, it just does its own thing!
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I would like to see a standard temperature so it is the same across all flights and not adjusted up and down on request.
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If you’re cold ask for a blanket It’s not rocket science ����
I do, but there are frequently not enough spares. That was notably the case in my last flight which was completely full and very badly delayed.

And yes, of course, I do realise that you only get a rhinovirus by being exposed to it, but the recycled dry air of an old aircraft cabin makes you exposed and when you are already tired (not something quite inconceivable when you have travelled 16 hours to go somewhere, have spent 48 hours of full work there and are ready for a long haul back which has already been delayed more than 3h30 well into the night), a really cold cabin won't help your body immune system fight back especially when you sleep at night and your body temperature is naturally lower.

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I would like to see a standard temperature so it is the same across all flights and not adjusted up and down on request.
But thatís the point. Itís impossible when the temperature controls vary so much from aircraft to aircraft
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Old Mar 16, 19, 3:04 am
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While not an expert I doubt whether breathing cool air or any small changes in body temperature hamper the role of the immune system. However, I suppose that the close contact any passenger has with their fellow travellers enables easier infection.
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I guess aristoph is more used to other aircraft type, this was a 747, and it will be interesting to know whether the following then happened: it's often the case that the temperature on 747s is whacked up on the ground, when the APU is more or less effective. When disengaging from the gate at IAD, the APU power for heating drops off, and the outside temperature in DC would be close to freezing point, maybe a degree or two above. So if you're not careful - and there is a delay / queues in departing IAD - the cabin temperature will drop. If the delay in departure is extended then you'll have the situation of a cabin getting colder and colder, and very little anyone can do about it. Hence whacking up the temperature at departure time. This condition persists on the 747 for quite a few minutes after tale off, and as indicated 20 minutes after take off the full, if clunky, control, of temperature comes back to the crew. So normally you can only start to complain about sauna conditions around 40 minutes after take off, it takes a good 10 minutes after pressing the dials that the impact works through.

I hope the OP comes back with the outcome, but this a common issue with older wide-body aircraft, and in the case of the 747, being a big lady, there really isn't a better solution on the ground. The newer aircraft - any size - are much better in this area.

BA216 left the gate on time yesterday, at 19:27 local, and got to take off at 19:50, so 23 minutes, which is pretty good for IAD. The OP posted at 19:45 local.
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