One hour (and 6 minutes) connection @ LHR T5
Mar 11, 2019, 5:32 pm
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One hour (and 6 minutes) connection @ LHR T5
Expedia is selling a flight from Dublin to LHR to Calgary with a 1:06 connection at LHR. I do believe that both the inbound and outbound flights are at Terminal 5. BA.com is selling the same itinerary as well, although it's almost twice as expensive. BA metal, first leg BA, second Iberia.
Brexit may affect this, travel is on April 21, but if I recall there is no passport control between ROI and the UK. Would one have to go through exit passport control on the way to Canada? How tight is this connection and is it doable?
Also, if things go sideways (this flight was 40 minutes late the past two Sundays, so I guess it's quite possible):
1. What accommodation, if any, would BA provide?
2. If the first flight lands on time but the 1 hour isn't enough for whatever reason, including the pax being lost/confused, would BA still assist (rebooking, hotel voucher?).
3. Is there any difference in the level of support BA will provide depending on whether the tickets are booked on Expedia or through BA.com?
Thank you
Brexit may affect this, travel is on April 21, but if I recall there is no passport control between ROI and the UK. Would one have to go through exit passport control on the way to Canada? How tight is this connection and is it doable?
Also, if things go sideways (this flight was 40 minutes late the past two Sundays, so I guess it's quite possible):
1. What accommodation, if any, would BA provide?
2. If the first flight lands on time but the 1 hour isn't enough for whatever reason, including the pax being lost/confused, would BA still assist (rebooking, hotel voucher?).
3. Is there any difference in the level of support BA will provide depending on whether the tickets are booked on Expedia or through BA.com?
Thank you
Mar 11, 2019, 5:57 pm
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the MCT at T5 is 60 minutes. BA wouldn't permit a combination of flights with a shorter connection. Thousands of people do this sort of connection every day of the week without getting lost.
There are no physical exit passport checks.
If you are flying LHR-Calgary when you will most definitely be on BA metal. You most likely have an IB codeshare number
But of your DUB flight is delayed then BA would rebook you either on the next available flight or on an alternative route and if necessary an overnight hotel etc.
There are no physical exit passport checks.
If you are flying LHR-Calgary when you will most definitely be on BA metal. You most likely have an IB codeshare number
But of your DUB flight is delayed then BA would rebook you either on the next available flight or on an alternative route and if necessary an overnight hotel etc.
Mar 11, 2019, 6:52 pm
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1. BA would provide some hotel near the airport. They might also try to reroute you to avoid an overnight stay.
2. BA would in most cases assist. That said, they probably know how long it takes for stuff to happen at T5. If it takes you much longer than normal, there could be trouble.
3. No difference.
All is based on Expedia selling you a through ticket. Google Flights sometimes makes clear what it’s offering is Separate Tickets. I hope Expedia does too.
2. BA would in most cases assist. That said, they probably know how long it takes for stuff to happen at T5. If it takes you much longer than normal, there could be trouble.
3. No difference.
All is based on Expedia selling you a through ticket. Google Flights sometimes makes clear what it’s offering is Separate Tickets. I hope Expedia does too.
Mar 11, 2019, 7:37 pm
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Thank you both.
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
Mar 11, 2019, 8:08 pm
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Thank you both.
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
To answer your questions: correct there is no passport control or customs with that route, but yes they would have to go through hand baggage security.
Last edited by Ldnn1; Mar 11, 2019 at 8:14 pm
Mar 12, 2019, 2:50 am
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Can I check what your flights are exactly? All BA flights arrive and depart in five minute increments so I would be surprised if your connection is 1 hr 6 minutes - 1 hr 10 minutes or 1 hr 5 mins would seem more typical.
also if you haven’t found it there is a T5 connection guide linked to in the dashboard (and in my message signature) which has lots of useful information.
also if you haven’t found it there is a T5 connection guide linked to in the dashboard (and in my message signature) which has lots of useful information.
Last edited by KARFA; Mar 12, 2019 at 3:32 am
Mar 12, 2019, 4:34 am
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Thank you both.
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
The trabellers are in their mid 70s/early 80s, and speak hardly any English.
Am I to understand that there is no passport exit stamp for people who go that route? They are EU citizens anyway but want to ensure there won't be a need to line up at customs. Would tgey have to go through security?
Mar 12, 2019, 6:20 am
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It's 1:05. On 21 April, BA837 arrives at T5 at 1725, and BA103 departs at 1830.
Mar 12, 2019, 6:48 am
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Currently, as we don't what the post-Brexit landscape will look like, there is no passport check on arrival from Dublin but there is a customs check for those entering the UK. There will be transfer security for those passing through. On a through checked ticket, your right to enter Canada should be validated at the airport of departure and checked at the boarding gate too.
The UK does not do embarkation checks as a matter of course; it tends to only be stood up after major incidents (the last one being the Manchester Arena bombing).
The UK does not do embarkation checks as a matter of course; it tends to only be stood up after major incidents (the last one being the Manchester Arena bombing).
Mar 12, 2019, 7:30 am
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The Calgary flight leaves late (around 6pm), and I think if they miss it, there are very few same day options to get there (if any at all). I personally would take an earlier flight. For inexperienced travelers in their 70s/80s that don't speak English, I would 100% take an earlier flight.
Sure, things might run like clockwork and they make the flight, but I think even on the best days, 1 hour is fairly tight. Its not called the minimum connection time for nothing! On a 1 hour connection, by the time they get off the DUB flight, preboarding will probably already be starting for the YYC one. I think 3 hours would be better, and they have time for a cup of tea at LHR, and no need to rush.
Booking assistance would be a great idea, especially if their English isn't great. The DUB flight can only arrive at one gate at the very far end of the terminal, so its a fairly long walk to transit security, and then will probably have to get the transit train to B or C gates for the next flight. If they get a remote stand (happens often from DUB), then they need to wait for the bus, and then do the same walk, as they'll still end up at the same gate (A24 IIRC).
Sure, things might run like clockwork and they make the flight, but I think even on the best days, 1 hour is fairly tight. Its not called the minimum connection time for nothing! On a 1 hour connection, by the time they get off the DUB flight, preboarding will probably already be starting for the YYC one. I think 3 hours would be better, and they have time for a cup of tea at LHR, and no need to rush.
Booking assistance would be a great idea, especially if their English isn't great. The DUB flight can only arrive at one gate at the very far end of the terminal, so its a fairly long walk to transit security, and then will probably have to get the transit train to B or C gates for the next flight. If they get a remote stand (happens often from DUB), then they need to wait for the bus, and then do the same walk, as they'll still end up at the same gate (A24 IIRC).