First Leg No-Show: Urgent Advice Sought
#121
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I a doing JFK ex DUB in a few weeks and opted to stay the night before in DUB... I am too risk averse.
A couple of people said "but what if the night stopping aircraft does not come out?" but, what if the aircraft on the turnaround goes tech... Endless possibilities which could throw a spanner in the works.
A couple of people said "but what if the night stopping aircraft does not come out?" but, what if the aircraft on the turnaround goes tech... Endless possibilities which could throw a spanner in the works.
In response to the "endless possibilities"; going out the day prior also gives you more alternatives to buffer against those endless possibilities. Well your planned flight got cancelled; well how about alternative airline A, B, or C that can still get me to DUB. It is a lot easier to find alternatives getting you into DUB when you have a 16 hour time frame to work with than a 4 hour window.
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… but to continue: I already have my next Thai trip booked (at least, the AMS/LHR/BKK BA part). I shall seriously consider what has happened this time (and last time) when booking my locator flights to/from AMS. Generally, the return trip is far less risky/stressful. Depending on time of year and BA schedules, the BKK-LHR-AMS trip will either involve an overnight at LHR or a late arrival at AMS (in which case I book a night at the Mercure inside the Schiphol terminal).
In the case of a missed (late night) LHR-AMS connexion, I can just get alternative transport (train, bus or even an LCC flight) up to GLA and drop the LHR-AMS and AMS-GLA flights (no remaining flights to lose). A late arrival if staying overnight at LHR is no problem.
In the case of a missed (late night) LHR-AMS connexion, I can just get alternative transport (train, bus or even an LCC flight) up to GLA and drop the LHR-AMS and AMS-GLA flights (no remaining flights to lose). A late arrival if staying overnight at LHR is no problem.
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Please plan to overnight in AMS on the outbound, ideally by not taking the last KLM flight from GLA to AMS of the night. There are reasonable/pleasant hotels at AMS or you can go into town for the evening. In fact, if you have an afternoon departure, you could even go to The Hague for the night since it's a short and easy train ride with frequent service.
#125
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Coming a bit late to this thread: I was in a similar situation to the OP last year. Was on the last easyjet flight of the day to INV to start a trip from there. By about 11pm it Was cancelled. At that time there was no longer any sensible way of getting to INV (two G&Ts in the lounge didn't help and public transport to the far end of Britain is surprisingly bad).
In the end we made our way directly to LHR the next morning, arriving 3.5 hours early. After providing evidence of the cancelled easyjet flight and about 30 minutes of wild typing and calling in supervisors, everything turned out well. At the time it appeared like standard procedure to help passengers in a situation like this, however us being on a non-BA flight initially was what required the supervisor approval.
It was a pretty stressful experience - would not be keen to repeat that one...
In the end we made our way directly to LHR the next morning, arriving 3.5 hours early. After providing evidence of the cancelled easyjet flight and about 30 minutes of wild typing and calling in supervisors, everything turned out well. At the time it appeared like standard procedure to help passengers in a situation like this, however us being on a non-BA flight initially was what required the supervisor approval.
It was a pretty stressful experience - would not be keen to repeat that one...
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I believe that if this had been booked through a travel agent, even though it is separate KLM and BA tickets, because it would be on one itinerary the airlines would need to sort you out in the case of IRROPS. When you do book this as one itinerary, when you look in KLM's manage my booking, you can see the BA flights, and vice versa - so the airlines have visibility to your whole itinerary.
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exEU is all about risk, I think ex DUB is probably one of the lower risk options. There must be over 50 flights a day between EI, BA and FR, from any ‘London’ airport you care to consider. If an 18/1900 flight went wrong, there is still a good chance of getting to DUB that evening, I would say. Bar a weather disaster, in which case all bets would be off and the chance of a re-route pretty good anyway.
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exEU is all about risk, I think ex DUB is probably one of the lower risk options. There must be over 50 flights a day between EI, BA and FR, from any ‘London’ airport you care to consider. If an 18/1900 flight went wrong, there is still a good chance of getting to DUB that evening, I would say. Bar a weather disaster, in which case all bets would be off and the chance of a re-route pretty good anyway.
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I believe that if this had been booked through a travel agent, even though it is separate KLM and BA tickets, because it would be on one itinerary the airlines would need to sort you out in the case of IRROPS. When you do book this as one itinerary, when you look in KLM's manage my booking, you can see the BA flights, and vice versa - so the airlines have visibility to your whole itinerary.
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no that’s not how it works. It is still two separate tickets which happens to be all under the TA’s one booking code/wrapper. The KL flight may show under BA MMB ( I have similar TA bookings which mix BA and LS and the LS flight shows in ba mmb) but it is purely there for information. If it was truely one ticket then the price would be radically different from the low exAMS price that the OP would like to take advantage of.
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I agree and that’s why I was surprised by the comments upthread that BA would likely have been helpful if the OP had turned up at LHR. But was also happy and learn from those who have been in such situations. Wonder if the helpfulness would also extend to a non BAEC member.
the point I was commenting on above is different tho and relates to protection across flights where they appear together in the booking due to being booked by a TA.
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the situations where ba has allowed starting at LHR tend to be where there is large amount of disruption and the positioning flight or first leg is cancelled or heavily delayed. It shows the advantage of positioning on BA rather than another airline as you are already at LHR so can attempt to deal with the situation and are probably more likely to be shown so leniency since it is all on the same airline. If positioning on another airline and that other airline flight was cancelled I would not expect any help from BA to allow me to start at LHR.
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Due to the wind, which is presumably what led to the GLA-AMS cancellation, I think only about 25% of BA's services ran on time yesterday which is about as low as it gets. LHR suspended flights for a brief period. There must have been tens of thousands of misconnects. In other threads there were stories of people spending an hour in Flight Connection queues, and the wait time for the Gold line was way over what normally happens. I think there were only about a dozen cancellations, and a few services diverted to STN. So I'm guessing BA will still be moving misconnects today. I think if this had been midweek BA would have had a more intense set of pro-active cancellations to reduce pressure on the the airport, and AMS would have been in the frame for that.
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I am glad the OP didn't have to find out tho and all ended well
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in post 95? I disagree the OP would have been ok, and I wouldn't describe the possibility of getting rebooked under the OP's circumstances as likely. I certainly think the chances of getting rebooked to start in London are not good if you were originally positioning on a non-BA flight - part of the problem is you probably wouldn't be LHR to try and plead your case whereas if you are positioning on BA you are in the right place to ask. I have only ever heard stories of people being rebooked to start from LHR where there positioning flight was also on BA and was disrupted.
I am glad the OP didn't have to find out tho and all ended well
I am glad the OP didn't have to find out tho and all ended well