New First Class
Mar 1, 2019, 1:21 am
#61
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,472
Mar 1, 2019, 1:36 am
#62
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
Mar 1, 2019, 3:27 am
#63
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Battleaxe Alliance
Posts: 22,127
Some larger departments have negotiated fares that do not earn any points/miles, whereas some make you sign an undertaking that you cannot use points/miles earned through work travel for personal purposes.
Mar 1, 2019, 3:31 am
#64
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: Confirmed
Posts: 1,091
AFAIN AF, LX and SQ does not allow partner redemptions. Their F product is significantly richer than BA's offerings tho.
JL NH LH QR EK and EY allows partner redemptions, their products and services are significantly richer than AF/LX/SQ's offerings.
TG F can be a redemption or reasonably priced.
Allowing redemptions doesn't degrade a first class's image. But BA's arrogance may degrade itself.
JL NH LH QR EK and EY allows partner redemptions, their products and services are significantly richer than AF/LX/SQ's offerings.
TG F can be a redemption or reasonably priced.
Allowing redemptions doesn't degrade a first class's image. But BA's arrogance may degrade itself.
Mar 1, 2019, 3:36 am
#65
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: Confirmed
Posts: 1,091
I think BA has options when it re-position their F product with the new seats/configuration. It can be a 'so-good-so-luxurious' kind of F where only GGL or above can redeem / no redemption and priced in the higher bucket. Or - it can follow the TG path - sell it at the lower bucket, near Flex CW with strict rules. A proper market research would tell which way is right.
Mar 1, 2019, 3:44 am
#66
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: Regarded as total and utter snob amongst the BAEC community.
Posts: 971
Yes I have travelled on company paid tickets and charged it to my company expense card.
Mar 1, 2019, 4:15 am
#67
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: BA - Blue > Bronze > Silver > Bronze > Blue
Posts: 6,812
AFAIN AF, LX and SQ does not allow partner redemptions. Their F product is significantly richer than BA's offerings tho.
JL NH LH QR EK and EY allows partner redemptions, their products and services are significantly richer than AF/LX/SQ's offerings.
TG F can be a redemption or reasonably priced.
Allowing redemptions doesn't degrade a first class's image. But BA's arrogance may degrade itself.
JL NH LH QR EK and EY allows partner redemptions, their products and services are significantly richer than AF/LX/SQ's offerings.
TG F can be a redemption or reasonably priced.
Allowing redemptions doesn't degrade a first class's image. But BA's arrogance may degrade itself.
Assuming the number of seats are cut significantly, I don’t think BA will limit redemptions, for many of the reasons already discussed, they will, just like for many of the airlines quoted, have half as many to give and therefore be twice as hard to find
Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 am
#68
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,501
I feel it is very poor etiquette for employees to take advantage of their employer’s generosity, especially when flying up front to accumulate the points vouchers etc unless you have authorisation from your employer to take advantage of it. If anything perhaps a corporate BAEC should be introduced where employers are funding travel for employees where points miles can be credited to fund future travel.
Yes I have travelled on company paid tickets and charged it to my company expense card.
Yes I have travelled on company paid tickets and charged it to my company expense card.
Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 am
#69
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,964
If anything perhaps a corporate BAEC should be introduced where employers are funding travel for employees where points miles can be credited to fund future travel.
Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 am
#70
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: BA - Blue > Bronze > Silver > Bronze > Blue
Posts: 6,812
I feel it is very poor etiquette for employees to take advantage of their employer’s generosity, especially when flying up front to accumulate the points vouchers etc unless you have authorisation from your employer to take advantage of it. If anything perhaps a corporate BAEC should be introduced where employers are funding travel for employees where points miles can be credited to fund future travel.
Yes I have travelled on company paid tickets and charged it to my company expense card.
Yes I have travelled on company paid tickets and charged it to my company expense card.
I very much doubt many employees are flying in premium cabins solely for the collection of miles sake!
Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 am
#71
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
1. A significant percentage of those using CCR on any given day are not flying First class, and
2. It will be many, many years before all BA’s F cabins consist of only eight seats.
Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 am
#72
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Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 am
#73
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,447
The biggest reason to put eight rather than 14 seats up front, really, is to cram more CW seats into the aircraft body (plus that smaller F layout will quickly jump from A-fare availability to F-fare with a huge price). Although WT+ is probably a more lucrative area to increase capacity - as I've seen a lot of large companies drop business travel policy to premium in the last few years and those cabins are often rammed on many routes.
Mar 1, 2019, 4:50 am
#75
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,234
Hard to imagine BA thinking they could limit redemptions with 8 seats where you have a partner like CX with only 6 seats and as we all know, a vastly superior product all around, that offers redemptions in F!
Plus I suspect a larger number of GGL pay for J (like me) and while the upgrade vouchers are already challenging to use to go J to F, it's still a perk they'd need to replace.
Also let's not forget the AA 77W first cabin with 8 seats and availability to book with avios too.
Plus I suspect a larger number of GGL pay for J (like me) and while the upgrade vouchers are already challenging to use to go J to F, it's still a perk they'd need to replace.
Also let's not forget the AA 77W first cabin with 8 seats and availability to book with avios too.
