IAG 2018 Full Year Results [18 Boeing 777-9 ordered, plus 24 options]
Feb 28, 2019, 2:30 am
#31
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The main deck on the A380 is only 6 rows, rather than the 7 on the 777. Plus most of us on here have status and therefore choose the smaller 4 row cabin on the UD; whereas on the 777 there's no other option than to be in the dorm.
Feb 28, 2019, 2:44 am
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6.7% increase in revenue
11.2% increase in pre tax profit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8800876.html
11.2% increase in pre tax profit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8800876.html
Feb 28, 2019, 2:49 am
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6.7% increase in revenue
11.2% increase in pre tax profit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8800876.html
11.2% increase in pre tax profit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8800876.html
Feb 28, 2019, 2:50 am
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I don't like bob. I think BA's J product is towards the budget end of the spectrum. The safety video makes me cringe.
The J product is available regularly at budget prices, the FF scheme is brilliant and the lounge network is one of the better out there.
I guess it's all in the balance and it seems to be working out rather well for BA. If only they'd be a bit more honest: 'we know we're not as good as Qatar but we can't be bothered to try and we make a profit' wouldn't be a bad slogan.
The J product is available regularly at budget prices, the FF scheme is brilliant and the lounge network is one of the better out there.
I guess it's all in the balance and it seems to be working out rather well for BA. If only they'd be a bit more honest: 'we know we're not as good as Qatar but we can't be bothered to try and we make a profit' wouldn't be a bad slogan.
Feb 28, 2019, 3:00 am
#38
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777-9X configuration breakdown
:Willie Walsh said to analysts the 4-class 777-9X at 325 seats will be as follows:
8 First seats
65 New Club World seats
46 New Premium Economy seats
206 Economy seats (assuming 10-abreast)
8 First seats
65 New Club World seats
46 New Premium Economy seats
206 Economy seats (assuming 10-abreast)
Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 am
#39
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This is what came to my mind as well. Seems very odd to be running two very similar long haul aircraft with a pretty high fleet count for both. Not an expert but I believe there aren’t that many other carriers that do this for obvious reasons.
Feb 28, 2019, 3:57 am
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Feb 28, 2019, 4:23 am
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A few other interesting bits from the call transcript.
Struggling on Hong Kong due to 'overcapacity' (it's all CX's fault, in other words) and "that's something that we'll probably be adjusting for the year" so possibly a down-gauging to Hong Kong in the works? "A lot more to come" on reducing non-fuel unit costs which sounds ominous. Lots of assurance that the 777s will be retrofitted with the new Club World but this is clearly going to be an extremely slow process.
Struggling on Hong Kong due to 'overcapacity' (it's all CX's fault, in other words) and "that's something that we'll probably be adjusting for the year" so possibly a down-gauging to Hong Kong in the works? "A lot more to come" on reducing non-fuel unit costs which sounds ominous. Lots of assurance that the 777s will be retrofitted with the new Club World but this is clearly going to be an extremely slow process.
Feb 28, 2019, 4:45 am
#42
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Having flown on the A350 from AY, HX and IB, I totally agree with this. The aircraft is magnificent with advantages of 787 and 380 without the disadvantages IMHO. Now, of course we have not yet flown the 777-9 but whenever I hear about densification, I shudder. I also now dislike BA's configuration of the 777-300 (AA is fine) as well as the higher noise levels, which of course might be addressed in the newer frames. The 350 is so quiet and smooth.
Feb 28, 2019, 4:45 am
#43
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My guess is when other airports, CPT?, become A380 ready, the A380 may disappear from HKG.
Feb 28, 2019, 4:57 am
#44
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Perhaps the 787 RR Engine Issue has highlighted the impact of what could happen if all the eggs were in one basket (A350 is exclusively RR powered)?
Feb 28, 2019, 5:00 am
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Thanks. To clarify, are you saying that I am mistaken that the 77X is intended to have an economy cabin layout of 10 abreast as opposed to 9 abreast for the 350?
True that the 779 has a higher capacity than the 351 though - I was thinking of the 778 which is equivalent.
True that the 779 has a higher capacity than the 351 though - I was thinking of the 778 which is equivalent.
Last edited by orbitmic; Feb 28, 2019 at 5:08 am