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IAG 2018 Full Year Results [18 Boeing 777-9 ordered, plus 24 options]

IAG 2018 Full Year Results [18 Boeing 777-9 ordered, plus 24 options]

Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by jday
Why bad news, no one has flown on a 777-9 yet?
Well that could equally lead to ask why good news

In a nutshell, no, no one has flown it or the 778 yet, but the specs are known, such as some of the elements kept from the 787 which I personally don't like, the fact that similar capacity to the A350 is achieved with a wider cabin with at least one more seat intended per row and some low cost airlines working on plans to see if they might be able to fit an 11th one (we know where this has led on the 77W), etc.

So for me it's bad news because it's an arbitration between the 77X and the 35X and I would have much preferred them to make the other choice which I consider to currently be the most comfortable long haul commercial plane in the sky...
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by jday
Why bad news, no one has flown on a 777-9 yet?
Warmed-over "older" design that can't offer as much in the way of passenger environment improvements seen on newer designs such as the Dreamliner, A350 etc? Plus it's well known that people don't like the "flying dormitory" on here with large, unbroken cabin areas. Presumably BA can influence that with its cabin layout, although if it means sacrificing seats I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:14 am
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Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!

Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:25 am
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No surprise really, Ive been expecting a 777X order for quite a while now purely due to the need to find a aircraft that will finish off the 744 replacement. I think the 777-9 was the only one with the capacity (both pax & cargo) that could do the job.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by etiene
Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!

Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
Per Boeing, to a certain extent yes. The windows will be bigger than the current 777 and slightly higher up the cabin wall, the humidity will be better and the cabin pressure lower (to around 6,000ft)
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:31 am
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My guess is Boeing offered a good deal that airbus wouldnt match.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
the fact that similar capacity to the A350 is achieved with a wider cabin with at least one more seat intended per row and some low cost airlines working on plans to see if they might be able to fit an 11th one (we know where this has led on the 77W), etc.
Neither of these points are actually true.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:45 am
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British Airways' 777-9 will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines
Wow, how heavy will the batteries be?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by etiene
Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!

Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
The new Boeing 777 has a 4 inch wider cabin due to slimming of the cabin walls. It means 10 abreast economy goes from 17.2 inch wide seats to 18 inch wide seats, which should calm the screamers who find that .4 of an inch each side a deal breaker.

Also, it will have a 6,000 foot cabin altitude, which is the same as the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350, so the on board comfort should be similar. Finally, the windows increase from 140 inches squared to 162 inches squared, which is 29% larger than at present (the current 777 has windows 12% larger than the A350 as it is, according to Boeing).

All in all, it will be a different experience to today's 777s. Plus folding wingtips, so there's that too!
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:53 am
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Well at least we know first is here to stay for a bit longer. Wonder if they will introduce a new first seat with it.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:03 am
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Does the 777-9 have the 787 windows? That is, the ones that don't actually block all the light and little of the heat when set to dark, don't allow you to close off the upper part of the window while looking out of the lower part, typically are set to be controlled in groups in business class instead of allowing individual control, and let authoritarian crews set them to dark even during daylight flights?

Or do they have useful, passenger-oriented windows?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by V10
Warmed-over "older" design that can't offer as much in the way of passenger environment improvements seen on newer designs such as the Dreamliner, A350 etc? Plus it's well known that people don't like the "flying dormitory" on here with large, unbroken cabin areas. Presumably BA can influence that with its cabin layout, although if it means sacrificing seats I wouldn't be too hopeful.
Having flown the CX A359 and A35K a couple of dozen times, the club dormitory is still very much present.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:17 am
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No-one seems to complain about the A380's "Club Dormitory"...
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by flatlander
No-one seems to complain about the A380's "Club Dormitory"...
On the A380 you can choose dormitory or not. Theres no escaoe on the 777
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:29 am
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Seems a bizarre decision to order a virtually identical type with similar capacity and range and mission profile, thereby increasing the costs by running two fleet types.
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