IAG 2018 Full Year Results [18 Boeing 777-9 ordered, plus 24 options]
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Well that could equally lead to ask why good news
In a nutshell, no, no one has flown it or the 778 yet, but the specs are known, such as some of the elements kept from the 787 which I personally don't like, the fact that similar capacity to the A350 is achieved with a wider cabin with at least one more seat intended per row and some low cost airlines working on plans to see if they might be able to fit an 11th one (we know where this has led on the 77W), etc.
So for me it's bad news because it's an arbitration between the 77X and the 35X and I would have much preferred them to make the other choice which I consider to currently be the most comfortable long haul commercial plane in the sky...
In a nutshell, no, no one has flown it or the 778 yet, but the specs are known, such as some of the elements kept from the 787 which I personally don't like, the fact that similar capacity to the A350 is achieved with a wider cabin with at least one more seat intended per row and some low cost airlines working on plans to see if they might be able to fit an 11th one (we know where this has led on the 77W), etc.
So for me it's bad news because it's an arbitration between the 77X and the 35X and I would have much preferred them to make the other choice which I consider to currently be the most comfortable long haul commercial plane in the sky...
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Warmed-over "older" design that can't offer as much in the way of passenger environment improvements seen on newer designs such as the Dreamliner, A350 etc? Plus it's well known that people don't like the "flying dormitory" on here with large, unbroken cabin areas. Presumably BA can influence that with its cabin layout, although if it means sacrificing seats I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
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No surprise really, Ive been expecting a 777X order for quite a while now purely due to the need to find a aircraft that will finish off the 744 replacement. I think the 777-9 was the only one with the capacity (both pax & cargo) that could do the job.
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Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
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Neither of these points are actually true.
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Could go either way for the Y traveller, I guess - initial improvement if they arrive only 10 across but then have to hope densification never happens!
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
Does the 777-8/9 feature the lower cabin altitude/higher cabin presssure & humidity of the more modern clean sheet designs?
Also, it will have a 6,000 foot cabin altitude, which is the same as the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350, so the on board comfort should be similar. Finally, the windows increase from 140 inches squared to 162 inches squared, which is 29% larger than at present (the current 777 has windows 12% larger than the A350 as it is, according to Boeing).
All in all, it will be a different experience to today's 777s. Plus folding wingtips, so there's that too!
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Does the 777-9 have the 787 windows? That is, the ones that don't actually block all the light and little of the heat when set to dark, don't allow you to close off the upper part of the window while looking out of the lower part, typically are set to be controlled in groups in business class instead of allowing individual control, and let authoritarian crews set them to dark even during daylight flights?
Or do they have useful, passenger-oriented windows?
Or do they have useful, passenger-oriented windows?
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Warmed-over "older" design that can't offer as much in the way of passenger environment improvements seen on newer designs such as the Dreamliner, A350 etc? Plus it's well known that people don't like the "flying dormitory" on here with large, unbroken cabin areas. Presumably BA can influence that with its cabin layout, although if it means sacrificing seats I wouldn't be too hopeful.
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