Anyone on BA492 today (25th Feb) LHR-GIB
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I wonder if the oscillating was caused by the two engines not being completely aligned power wise after thrust was increased in both as part of the go around procedures. It can be that they power up at slightly different rates.
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The winds from the Rock give off rotors - this was quite severe - today strong winds, clear skies warm temps
wind was gusting 30 even 40 from the East -
Watch some approaches and go-arounds from Funchal airport and you will see similar and nearer the ground control issues due to wind shear and rotors
If it was a technical issue today affecting the control the crew would have likely declared that with a pan pan or even a may day - The a/c was OK and flew back from AGP with the pax bussed from GIB
wind was gusting 30 even 40 from the East -
Watch some approaches and go-arounds from Funchal airport and you will see similar and nearer the ground control issues due to wind shear and rotors
If it was a technical issue today affecting the control the crew would have likely declared that with a pan pan or even a may day - The a/c was OK and flew back from AGP with the pax bussed from GIB
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During a go-around a button on the throttle levers or the motion to full power, depending on the aircraft model (not sure how initiated but result is the same) cause TO/GA mode (Take-odd/Go-around) which is max continuous thrust on both engines. Also most jets synchronise the power (if enabled, it's a button)
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The guy interviewed by Sky News is a friend of mine. Flies every week from London to Gibraltar. So he knows about the sometimes awful weather conditions. But he also told us that the pilot said that in all her flying years with BA she had never had so close a call.
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A close call to decide on the go around or did you mean close shave?
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I was on the late LHR-GIB flight. Apparently a fair few people offloaded themselves before departure after hearing about the winds, and the captain did a nice PA saying that GIB was still our intended destination. As it turns out, approach was very smooth (and the mixed fleet crew excellent).
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Looks a bit worse in this video. A good 20-30 secs of oscillation and this is full video including approach and Go Around.
Even hear a passenger say: "I think we might be going Malaga!" They've clearly been to GIB before.
Even hear a passenger say: "I think we might be going Malaga!" They've clearly been to GIB before.
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Sent it to a Pilot I know as he text me earlier saying he'd had an "interesting take off' out of HPN bound for BCN for comparison, he had 35 knots off the left wing. He said this was much sportier. Said it looks like over correction by the pilot for what it's worth.
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You can rule out mechanical problems as the aircraft flew from AGP back to LHR. I don't think it's fair to suggest Pilot Induced Oscillations until the FDR (Flight Data Recorder) is downloaded and assessed.
This looks like being caught in a rather severe rotor effect as a result of the easterly wind hitting the rock, being forced up and then swirling down the other side (on the side of the Bay, where they were turning on to final for RW09).
The aircraft is built to be inherently stable i.e. return to it's original position in case of a disturbance (ever wondered what the tail is for other than to simply yaw the aircraft?). That combined with the rotors causing almost instantaneous updraughts/downdraughts on each wing it's difficult to say whether the pilots had much to do with this for better or worse. All they could do really was execute the Go-Around and ride it out until they climbed above the rotor zone.
I've flown during some tricky wind conditions in GIB, INN, NCE among others but I have to say this looks rather un-settling!
This looks like being caught in a rather severe rotor effect as a result of the easterly wind hitting the rock, being forced up and then swirling down the other side (on the side of the Bay, where they were turning on to final for RW09).
The aircraft is built to be inherently stable i.e. return to it's original position in case of a disturbance (ever wondered what the tail is for other than to simply yaw the aircraft?). That combined with the rotors causing almost instantaneous updraughts/downdraughts on each wing it's difficult to say whether the pilots had much to do with this for better or worse. All they could do really was execute the Go-Around and ride it out until they climbed above the rotor zone.
I've flown during some tricky wind conditions in GIB, INN, NCE among others but I have to say this looks rather un-settling!
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