Nut allergy

Old Feb 16, 19, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by South London Bon Viveur View Post


One potential action point might be for crew to be trained to inform passengers who notify them of nut allergies of the risk of some cross contamination. I would have thought that in a small galley this is a potential risk worth flagging.
Agree completely. I think all airlines should make it clear that no public space can be 100% guaranteed allergen free for all allergies. They shouldn't be held accountable for "causing" an allergic reaction. Those with anaphylactic level allergies need to travel with appropriate medication and those with GI type allergies should avoid any publically prepared food.
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Old Feb 16, 19, 8:01 pm
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Thanks for the replies. Just to be clear at no time have I thought or said that nuts should be banned on board. However having eaten many Danish Pastries, maybe too many looking at my waistline, over the years I have never had an allergic reaction to one. It is an allergy I have had for over 45 years and know the signs well, and for those who may suggest was I sure it was that which caused it, yes I am.

My concern is that the cut and paste answer potentially doesn't take the matter seriously, especially in light of the recent Pret case. A thorough investigation couldn't have taken place in the few days between reporting and receiving the answer, and I seriously doubt if the CC saved it for investigation. Maybe that should be the procedure for the very few cases where this issue may occur.
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Old Feb 17, 19, 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by bazza1603 View Post
I always wonder why they allow nuts anywhere need planes. Common sense to me would go for a nut free environment at airports and on planes.
Thats a lot of people to psychologically screen each day! As for the plant ones there is no guarantee that people wont bring their own nuts on board. If you have an allergy it is your responsibility to protect yourself with no expectation for other people to comply with all requirements.
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Old Feb 17, 19, 6:40 am
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Does British Airways offer a "buffer zone" for people with nut allergies?
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Old Feb 17, 19, 6:43 am
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My concern is that the cut and paste answer potentially doesn't take the matter seriously, especially in light of the recent Pret case. A thorough investigation couldn't have taken place in the few days between reporting and receiving the answer, and I seriously doubt if the CC saved it for investigation. Maybe that should be the procedure for the very few cases where this issue may occur.
Had a similar experience with prepackaged food bought from a supermarket. It was the only thing eaten over a space of several hours. Returned the uneaten portion and filed a complaint. Was offered a refund which was accepted. Received a call from the supermarket with a list of questions regarding the product then a call from the supplier. The supplier offered some replacement items which was declined as it wasnt something I would regularly buy. The point is I felt that the issue had been taken seriously and was thoroughly investigated. The report was made to them in the interests of public health not for seeking compensation (not implying the op was doing anything other than this).
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Old Feb 17, 19, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer View Post
I love nuts. All of them.
Daughter has life threatening allergy to some nuts. Especially cashew.
We either have no nuts in the house, or have them in sealed units in cupboards.
That is no reason for banning them from planes.
Just being pedantic but Cashews are seeds not nuts. Seeds of the cashew fruit.
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Old Feb 17, 19, 3:21 pm
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Does British Airways offer a "buffer zone" for people with nut allergies?
No. SOP is to suspend serving of any nut-based snacks, make an announcement to request passengers refrain from consuming any nut-based snacks, and to offer wipes for the seat area. Crew will also enquire as to whether the passenger has an EpiPen with them, and whether they are travelling with someone who can administer it if necessary (if there’s no companion or a medical professional on board, crew can do this - the on board medical kit contains an EpiPen).
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Old Feb 17, 19, 3:38 pm
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We travelled in F to KUL last week. I refused the pre flight nuts as I have a mild allergic reaction to walnuts. I had a discussion with the CC about it. On getting to breakfast time I just ordered the fruit but also a Danish pastry to go with the coffee. As soon as I bit into the pastry my walnut reaction started. I was feeling pretty rough and spent some time vomiting in the restroom. The final 2 hours of the flight was a bit of a write off, me having to drink copious amounts of water to offset the reaction. The CC were very good and a golden ticket has been awarded accordingly. They were surprised, as was I , about the Danish containing walnuts as they believed they knew all products on board which contained nuts. They also said they were making a note in the trip report.

I emailed BA a few days later explaining the issue and have copied part of the reply:

"Thanks for letting us know what happened on your flight to Kuala Lumpur on ## February. I apologise for the delay in my response. I completely understand why you’re annoyed your Danish pastry didn’t meet the standard you would expect from us.

We’ve investigated the issues you’ve raised and we’ve examined the ingredients in the meal you were served. We haven’t found any evidence that might suggest your pastry contained any ingredients that should not have been present, or which were not declared."


They also offered 10k Avios. I don't have any other allergies and I have no doubt that this contained, or had been in contact with, walnuts

Is this reasonable for BA to be so lax about what was a potentially much more serious issue?

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I'm severely allergic to walnuts. After I queried the ingredients of a bread roll that seemed nutty / seedy, the crew wouldn't serve me any bread or breakfast pastries, not even a plain croissant. I felt quite aggrieved at the time, especially as they'd only loaded 2 fruit plates for the whole of CW and in the end I had practically no breakfast at all I thought they were being overdramatic, saying they couldn't guarantee there was no cross-contamination. But in retrospect it was better to be hungry than risk dying on board. I now feel bad about criticising the crew I still think BA should load more fruit plates
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Old Feb 17, 19, 3:42 pm
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Just being pedantic but Cashews are seeds not nuts. Seeds of the cashew fruit.
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Old Feb 17, 19, 4:06 pm
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Just being pedantic but Cashews are seeds not nuts. Seeds of the cashew fruit.
And while we are at it, peanuts aren't nuts either, they are a legume, and should be regarded as beans. Hence those with peanut allergy are often fine with conventional nuts. And vice versa, nut allergy people are often ok with peanuts.
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Old Feb 17, 19, 4:08 pm
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Allergies are a strange one (disclaimer my PhD is Cell Biology and not immunology). I get a bad reaction to mosquito bites in asia so always have anti histamines.

Once in the Andaz in Aerocity Delhi I had an asthma attack (first time ever in 53 years). Next time was 18 months later, overnight in the Bloc hotel LGW, into the BA 1st lounge and half way through breakfast I had the same. No reason, no connection. But on both occasions, because i have antihistamines I got over it in 20 mins. Now I have a Salbutomol inhaler as a counteractive.

I always get really mildly short of breath from my cat once a year (probably something he is encountering on his morning Pee/poo routine, and really badly from my mother in laws dog. But not from other dogs. So probably something he encounters on his walks.

I live with it and like the benefits from pets etc so willing to have drugs as a precautionary measure. Sat next to the cat without any issues just now.

If I was you, I would get some drugs to carry just in case. Good for peace of mind :-)
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Old Feb 18, 19, 3:59 am
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Sorry to hear that! I am really disappointed to see the response from BA.

This is why I always assume cross-contamination will happen, and have a protocol for that kind of thing. Do you have steroids in case this happens? It's a good step before actually having to use an EpiPen. Either way, I'd talk about this experience with your an allergy specialist
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Old Feb 18, 19, 4:40 am
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Sorry to hear that! I am really disappointed to see the response from BA.

This is why I always assume cross-contamination will happen, and have a protocol for that kind of thing. Do you have steroids in case this happens? It's a good step before actually having to use an EpiPen. Either way, I'd talk about this experience with your an allergy specialist
No I don't have steroids or a pen as the reaction is somewhat mild compared to many others and I actively avoid walnuts-or so I thought! In fact as a test I just had a small bite of a Danish at breakfast and no reaction at all which is good as I quite like them occasionally.

I'm a bit limited here WIFI wise but will follow up with BA on our return in a few weeks as I just don't think saying it's all fine is not acceptable. I'm OK with the Avios offered BTW.
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Old Feb 18, 19, 4:51 am
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And while we are at it, peanuts aren't nuts either, they are a legume, and should be regarded as beans. Hence those with peanut allergy are often fine with conventional nuts. And vice versa, nut allergy people are often ok with peanuts.
Nor are Almonds (dupes), Brazil nuts (seeds) Walnuts and Pecans (both also Dupes).

It's like no nuts are actually nuts. Which is, dare I say nuts.
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Old Feb 18, 19, 5:29 am
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