Screen etiquette - should I be offended?

Old Feb 15, 2019, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Karen762
Sometimes I just write what I think - didn't realise I had to adhere to someone else's rules of what are " an internally consistent set of statements".

I am shy but don't have a problem with it and I can assure you I am also not the problem - just someone who was brought up to appreciate good manners and common courtesy. However if you are ever sitting opposite me do feel free to raise that screen as soon as you like
Well, sure. Your list of priorities-when-taking-one's-seat nowhere included any acknowledgement of the person sitting opposite you, but you get all huffy when someone else behaves, er, pretty much exactly like you just said you would. Hence, inconsistent is le mot juste.
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Old Feb 15, 2019, 9:32 pm
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There are many things that could impede and evacuation but the screens are made of strips of plastic and wouldnt in my opinion cause a problem.
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by Soupdragon62
My last flight where the screen didn't work ended up slightly awkward, for me at least, as the gent sat facing me spent a good part of the flight blubbing uncontrollably at whatever he was watching on the IFE.

The 8000 avios was well earned in this case
Soups, your post is of far far greater fascination than discussions about the socially graceless or those who wish to evacuate. What was showing that had him in tears? I love a good weepie, and Id probably have to put the screen up because my mascara could run and the person opposit might believe that they are sitting before a Panda.
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by oxtailsoup
I always ask the person in the other seat if they mind if I put the divider up and no one ever refuses.

it doesnt cost anything to be polite. if someone had done what you experienced I probably would have thought that was a bit rude too... for a split second and then forgotten about it!

not everyone is confident in their English ability to do that.
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
Not so much selfish as dangerous - but the passenger can't really know when is or is not dangerous (as nothing is said) while the crew know and should have enforced it.

That said, CIHY on this thread as other resident crew members on others confirmed that the only time the screen is considered to endanger passengers' safety is during the safety demonstration when crew show where the exits are and explain about floor lighting. The moment the safety demonstration is over the privacy screen is considered fully safe to raise and so till disembarkation.
given that it was put up when he arrived the seat and was not lowered during safety briefing, a) crew did not do their job properly; b) the dude compromised the safety of karen - still selfish, given that the chances of actually running into an emergency is rather low.

Do you need a police to enforce driving through a red light to prove the action being dangerous, selfish, or both?
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 7:34 am
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OK. Beware the attorney who may dig this up !
iirc he no longer represents BA in any capacity anymore on or off FT??!?
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by kaka
given that it was put up when he arrived the seat and was not lowered during safety briefing, a) crew did not do their job properly; b) the dude compromised the safety of karen - still selfish, given that the chances of actually running into an emergency is rather low.

Do you need a police to enforce driving through a red light to prove the action being dangerous, selfish, or both?
a) is completely correct indeed. For the rest, running through a red light is a traffic infraction (a low level form of criminal violation), I do not believe that raising ones divider is (purposefully disobeying the pilots order would be, but precisely, such order was not articulated here either by the pilot or by his representative). And no, I do not agree that finding the divider down makes the requirement that it be kept that way at a given time obvious or implicit. For instance, when you fly various airlines from very hot stations, youll often find the blinds lowered to keep the cabin less hot. It doesnt follow opening those blinds is dangerous, in fact by the time you are ready to take off, it will have become a requirement. You also board with open luggage racks and most obviously it is not an issue to close them when they are full.

in my view, its very much the crew which was at fault here (unless the passenger knew divider needs to be up for the safety demo but we dont know that he knows that...)
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Karen762
Sometimes I just write what I think - didn't realise I had to adhere to someone else's rules of what are " an internally consistent set of statements".

I am shy but don't have a problem with it and I can assure you I am also not the problem - just someone who was brought up to appreciate good manners and common courtesy. However if you are ever sitting opposite me do feel free to raise that screen as soon as you like
I agree. I think it is rude and antisocial to raise the divider straight away. Wait until after takeoff!
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 11:15 am
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I agree. I think it is rude and antisocial to raise the divider straight away. Wait until after takeoff!
Why, if you don't wish to talk to/look at the other person?
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by IAMORGAN


I agree. I think it is rude and antisocial to raise the divider straight away. Wait until after takeoff!
But then it is antisocial not to engage with fellow travelers when the other wants to....so where do you cutoff the conversation without being anti social in ther minds?
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by HMPS

But then it is antisocial not to engage with fellow travelers when the other wants to....so where do you cutoff the conversation without being anti social in ther minds?
It's also antisocial to keep talking when they do not want to listen.

I guess the key here is to "try to put yourself in the other person's position and see if you can accommodate/tolerate/go-along without much undue inconvenience for yourself".
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Old Feb 17, 2019, 12:46 am
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When I saw the thread title I assumed this was going to be a post about someone watching a porno on the plane.
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Old Feb 17, 2019, 1:05 am
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The mere fact that youre asking others if you should be offended is what is wrong with humans these days. Why should someone else say you should be offended. I didnt even bother reading your post so I dont know what the context is but asking others if you should be offended just implies youre a sheep and have no decision making skills of your own
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Old Feb 17, 2019, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by Sparth3103
The mere fact that youre asking others if you should be offended is what is wrong with humans these days. Why should someone else say you should be offended. I didnt even bother reading your post so I dont know what the context is but asking others if you should be offended just implies youre a sheep and have no decision making skills of your own
What's REALLY wrong with humans these days is 103 responses on this subject.

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Old Feb 17, 2019, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by Schwann
When I saw the thread title I assumed this was going to be a post about someone watching a porno on the plane.
There's at least one post in some thread elsewhere about so some doing this very thing. That and reflective train windows possibly here.

I've had one occasion when my seat mate didn't put the shade up. Couldn't really see that much of her from our reclined positions but neither of us made any attempt to raise the screen.
Possibly she was unaware of it, was leaving it to my discretion or dreaming, that she wanted to be friendly.

Generally though, my seat mate is an unknown male and they put the screen down ASAP. Doesn't bother me as it makes things far more private when you're in a window seat.
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