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BA to offshore pilots [Baseless Rumour Alert]

Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:20 pm
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BA to offshore pilots [Baseless Rumour Alert]

Currently BA are hosting a pilot recruitment campaign which has included roadshows in London, Manchester and now strangely Abu Dhabi?

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/briti...ts-55400936693

BA pilots have always given me that added sense of safety when flying from the moment you are welcomed on board, inflight messages, deplaning regardless of age or experience (young or old) and length of flights. Whilst pilots are certainly highly skilled individuals, with training not cheap and scholarships unheard of these days for such a field but to fly out to the Emirates to on such a campaign begs the questions, does nobody want to fly BA aircraft as there are better airlines to work for even now for pilots? .Are those pilots in the ME just a better calibre? Cost? (always ) or just a genuine skill shortage?
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:24 pm
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Where is a suggestion of 'offshoring' in this?

Ah, I'd better tell friends of ours who are working in the ME, not exactly happy, and thinking of coming back to the UK. There are lots of them, which I assume BA have realised...

Maybe they don't want to do it in Doha to avoid treading on AAB's toes.

Offshoring... perhaps not!
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:26 pm
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Or just that there are many Brits leaving Dubai who might fancy a job back home.

I think you are reading too much into it.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:26 pm
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Pretty much all major airlines look to recruit experienced pilots from all over the world, and that include from the ME3. This has been going on for years. Many of the ME3 pilots originally worked for the likes of BA and others.

I am not sure this is really newsworthy tbh. There seems to be a certian element of 2+2=22 here.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:30 pm
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I think that your thread title is misleading.

I'm not entirely sure of the point of your point but aviation is a global market and many airlines recruit on a global basis for flight deck crew. BA are aware that according to some all is not great at EK / EY and that there are several British and European pilots who might well be tempted to move back from the sandpit.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by LTN Phobia
Where is a suggestion of 'offshoring' in this?

Ah, I'd better tell friends of ours (mostly British) who are working out there, not exactly happy, and thinking of coming back to the UK. There are lots of them, which I assume BA have realised...

Maybe they don't want to do it in Doha to avoid treading on AAB's toes.

Offshoring... perhaps not!
Why else would you hold a recruitment fair abroad for a role?
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Or just that there are many Brits leaving Dubai who might fancy a job back home.

I think you are reading too much into it.
Maybe
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I am not sure this is really newsworthy tbh. There seems to be a certian element of 2+2=22 here.
I disagree this is could end up being the same as the Mixed Fleet v Legacy crew argument.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:38 pm
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there are lots of unhappy, qualified pilots at EK, EY, ETC.

BA is just trying to poach them.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:39 pm
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Why else would you hold a recruitment fair abroad for a role?
I guess for the same reason that BA are about to announce their next inter-galactic longhaul hub will be in Manchester. CCR Wythenshawe here we come.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:53 pm
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So when my local hospitat went to the Philippines to recruit nurses they were also offshoring jobs? No they were just recruiting staff to come and work in the U.K.


offshoring usually means moving a function out of the U.K. such as setting up a call centre in say India and replacing U.K. based staff with cheaper Indian staff.

this is not what is happening here at all. You need to check yoiur dictionary definitions before using such a word as offshoring.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by LTN Phobia
Maybe they don't want to do it in Doha to avoid treading on AAB's toes.
Well considering the strong partnership between the two, BA could have an agreement with QR to supply staff on a series of short term contracts.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:01 pm
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Many other UK based airlines have been out in Dubai in the last 12-24 months on recruitment campaigns trying to tempt British/EU pilots from Emirates, Etihad, Qatar etc.

Working conditions with those Middle East airlines arent as great as they once were, at least not for Westerners and for many people its a few years of adventure away earning a tax free salary.

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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:02 pm
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The airline pilot market is totally international. When I qualified I sent off my CV to every registered airline, corporate operator and air taxi company I could find throughout the world!!! I don't know how many... I didn't count! It took ages. My point is that just because a pilot flies for BA it doesn't mean they are British or trained in the UK. In fact, most young pilots I flew with when I qualified did their commercial training abroad, a lot in the USA.

When it comes to commercial flying with the major airlines we just have to trust that they are all up to the required standard. I can't imagine why a pilot from any one country might be any better or worse than one from another if they are flying for the same airline.

I could imagine BA recruiting from all the major aviation bases around the world.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:27 pm
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While I am sure BA recruits from all corners of the world, I cannot remember flying a single time with them where the flight crew did not sound British.

I once only heard a Spanish accent on BA, its on the ATC recording of the BA85 accident at LHR.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:29 pm
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BA has many non British pilots already. If you think you have never been flown by any you arent paying attention
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Yes true. Don't forget though, there is a severe shortage of skilled and experienced pilots in the world, so it's natural BA will look to recruit the Brits back to the UK, on I am sure top salaries! 150,000 GBP a year for a BA captain right?
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