Feb 6, 2019, 10:26 am
Last edit by: skunker
American Airlines, British Airways, and the Port Authority announced a $344 million renovation and refurbishment project at JFK that will result in the relocation of BA from T7 to American's terminal, T8.
Press coverage:
American Airlines and British Airways Announce $344 Million Terminal 8 Expansion at JFK
JFK Airport’s Terminal 8 to Get $344 Million Renovation (subscription may be required)
Link to thread in FlyerTalk AA forum
Press coverage:
American Airlines and British Airways Announce $344 Million Terminal 8 Expansion at JFK
JFK Airport’s Terminal 8 to Get $344 Million Renovation (subscription may be required)
Link to thread in FlyerTalk AA forum
BA to move into T8 at JFK
Feb 6, 2019, 8:40 am
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As well as lounges they will also need to look again at security. Seems like JFK has a bulk of flights in the evening which coincides with the main BA flights, so potential for some pinch points being created.
Feb 6, 2019, 8:43 am
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the airline remains committed to improving its customer experience at JFK with an investment of £52 million ($65m) which includes brand new lounges for First and Club World customers and an upgraded customer experience for all customers in the main areas of the building.
They may want to spend that money, but they have no choice in doing so under the terms of their lease from the PANYNJ. They're PR-polishing an obligation.
Feb 6, 2019, 8:44 am
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agree the oneworld lounge concept would be a key option for T8 as there aren't many spaces to plonk in three new BA lounges (assuming the expanded T8 would really just include building out the rest of the terminal in its current state) which still wouldn't leave many options--and LAX is a great example of the OneWorld lounge operated by QF working quite well!
Feb 6, 2019, 9:00 am
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Are there existing plans for what an expansion of T8 might look like...? A third "toast rack" in the vein of LHR T5? Widening the existing racks [which are a bit lopsided]?
Feb 6, 2019, 9:01 am
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That should say "The airline remains contractually bound to spend $65M on improvements to Terminal 7 during its lease until 2022."
They may want to spend that money, but they have no choice in doing so under the terms of their lease from the PANYNJ. They're PR-polishing an obligation.
They may want to spend that money, but they have no choice in doing so under the terms of their lease from the PANYNJ. They're PR-polishing an obligation.
Feb 6, 2019, 9:29 am
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Great news ^
I hope this makes for better transfers from between AA and BA in both directions through the upgraded T8.
This gives the AA/BA partnership the opportunity to set their stall out very clearly for their CCR/CK passengers - I really hope they make a good job of it.
I hope this makes for better transfers from between AA and BA in both directions through the upgraded T8.
This gives the AA/BA partnership the opportunity to set their stall out very clearly for their CCR/CK passengers - I really hope they make a good job of it.
Feb 6, 2019, 9:32 am
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Originally the FL lounge in T8 was for EXPs (intl.), FC (also transcom). They expanded FL lounge and added PLAT, PLAT PRO (intl.) to those permitted access. So as it seems to be the direction AA is heading, EXPs are getting "shafted" again.
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Feb 6, 2019, 9:42 am
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the ultimate T8 plan so far is to finish the other half of the main building and to extend the satellite towards east a little bit more.
I assume the BA and AA investment on T8 would be to finish the T8 main building by building the eastern half of the main terminal. The rest of the T8 in the master plan relies on NYNJ port authority to invest in the alternation of the highway between T7 and T8 as well as redesign of the taxiway around T8 before the extension of the T8 satellite to be completed. I guess that would be after 2030 at today's pace. But I am glad that at least the main building of T8 is now to be completed.
Feb 6, 2019, 9:44 am
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agreed, but with the new FL in JFK/LAX/MIA where the normal admirals clubs are heavily trafficked i wonder if AA made the call to add PLAT and PLAT PRO to flagship access (intl) to ease the strain on the regular lounges as in these three airports the new FL take up a significantly larger bit of real estate than existed prior to renovations--which of course came at the cost of the admirals clubs square footage.
plus remember for the admirals club there are those who buy memberships or get access via credit cards compounding the capacity concerns.
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Feb 6, 2019, 9:46 am
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Quite, I used to like the Flagship Lounges, almost always peaceful and quiet - no more, they are often overcrowded and noisy, I try to avoid them now unless I'm on a Transcon.
Feb 6, 2019, 9:54 am
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i guess i have happened to hit the sweet spot on timing because in the dozen or so times i've used the FL at JFK/LAX/MIA this past year they have been relative ghost towns. i can only recall once at both MIA (in the evening returning to LHR) and JFK (in the morning when CX departures loomed) was it rather rammed, yes--do agree with you there! when its busy--its BUSY!
Feb 6, 2019, 10:01 am
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Similar arrangements are in place for the new T1/2 terminal which will be managed by the current consortium - LH/AK.JL and KE but isn't for their exclusive use.