Yin and Yang
Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 am
#16
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Roswell, GA
Programs: AA EXP 2.8m,Lifetime PLT, Hilton Diamond, IHG PlLT, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,191
Even though I am not a big fan of the BA seats in CW, I actually sleep very well,
and besides I have made several friends over the years while the divider is down for the safety briefing
and besides I have made several friends over the years while the divider is down for the safety briefing
Jan 8, 2019, 8:25 am
#17
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: All over the place often South Wales and Lake District
Programs: BA Gold for Life Accor Platinum
Posts: 4,552
1st world moan.....
My last J flight was just before Christmas on QR to DOH and BLR. Today I’m in J on LHR to YYZ on BA.
i can’t believe BA still think the Yiin and Yang layout is good for a solo traveller. Luckily today I have no neighbour but still.
Yes I know I have airline choices etc. But this layout just feels so dated. Perhaps I have got too used to the Middle East carriers? Hopefully BA’s next layout refresh will finally address this.
I’m sure this topic has been flogged to death on FT, so please just treat this post as self therapy.
Onwards.....
My last J flight was just before Christmas on QR to DOH and BLR. Today I’m in J on LHR to YYZ on BA.
i can’t believe BA still think the Yiin and Yang layout is good for a solo traveller. Luckily today I have no neighbour but still.
Yes I know I have airline choices etc. But this layout just feels so dated. Perhaps I have got too used to the Middle East carriers? Hopefully BA’s next layout refresh will finally address this.
I’m sure this topic has been flogged to death on FT, so please just treat this post as self therapy.
Onwards.....
Jan 8, 2019, 8:53 am
#18
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London
Programs: Mucci Blue, BAEC Gold, Blockbuster Video card
Posts: 1,378
I never have a huge issue with it. Helps that I am shortish and slim (well, also ish, depending on if it's post xmas or not).
And with a little planning, I honestly can't remember the last time I didn't manage to secure both a window seat and more often than not one of those that also has aisle access (yes, BA status helps with this of course). If that were not the case I think my views would change but for as long as that is the norm, I am perfectly happy sticking the divider up and retreating into my hobbit hole for a few hours of (relative) peace. I guess having a toddler makes that even more of a rare and valued treasure nowadays.
And with a little planning, I honestly can't remember the last time I didn't manage to secure both a window seat and more often than not one of those that also has aisle access (yes, BA status helps with this of course). If that were not the case I think my views would change but for as long as that is the norm, I am perfectly happy sticking the divider up and retreating into my hobbit hole for a few hours of (relative) peace. I guess having a toddler makes that even more of a rare and valued treasure nowadays.
Jan 8, 2019, 10:05 am
#19
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 6,349
The main issue I see here is that most posts above focus on the privacy of the window seat. Unfortunately only 25% of seats (apart from upstairs on 747) are window, if you are sat in the aisle or middle pair the whole thing is a lot less appealing. Plus the lack of direct aisle access is a bit 1990s.
Every product has its price though, and to be fair most airlines have their achilles heel. The middle seat on an EK 777 isn't great, and QR is pretty inconsistent fleet wide.
Every product has its price though, and to be fair most airlines have their achilles heel. The middle seat on an EK 777 isn't great, and QR is pretty inconsistent fleet wide.
Jan 8, 2019, 1:00 pm
#20
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,395
But in a lengthy piece by the Sunday Times (Dec 30), headed “BA’s long haul to get back on top of the world”, much is made of what will clearly be a very slow roll-out.
from the article :
This time, Cruz’s problem is the small number of A350’s debuting next year. “BA has a fleet of more than 270 aircraft and the four A350’s will have an impact on only roughly 1.5% of BA’s passenger base”, said Paul Griffiths, the British chief executive of Dubai Airports, the world’s busiest global hub.
Jan 8, 2019, 3:58 pm
#21
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,216
Unless, of course, you are travelling as a couple! One of the advantages of Club World is that there is something there to suit pretty much everybody!
Jan 8, 2019, 4:06 pm
#22
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EDI
Programs: Was BA GGL but no longer travelling
Posts: 583
I was typing the post on an iPhone, which is a challenge in itself - FT website renders dreadfully on a small screen. Searching was a step too far, especially as I knew there would already be a million threads on the subject. So this is 1,000,001.
Jan 8, 2019, 5:03 pm
#23
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Ireland
Programs: BA Silver, A3
Posts: 1,101
I do appreciate that many of the FTers are flying alone as on business but I have now got to the 90% pleasure and 10% business stage.
Jan 8, 2019, 5:08 pm
#24
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/GFl, HH Diamond, BW Diamond, Virgin Voyages Deep Blue Extra, Blue Peter Badge Holder
Posts: 3,937
When the two of us are travelling I find it much easier to have any conversation side by side. I hate shouting through a divide as we are too far away for any other option.
I do appreciate that many of the FTers are flying alone as on business but I have now got to the 90% pleasure and 10% business stage.
I do appreciate that many of the FTers are flying alone as on business but I have now got to the 90% pleasure and 10% business stage.
Jan 8, 2019, 5:29 pm
#26
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/GFl, HH Diamond, BW Diamond, Virgin Voyages Deep Blue Extra, Blue Peter Badge Holder
Posts: 3,937
TBF- AA,s A330 felt very date despite being from this millennia (it very much reminded me of the 80s in its block colour and curves: Thankfully these birds are due to retire this year
Last edited by navylad; Jan 8, 2019 at 5:47 pm
Jan 8, 2019, 5:57 pm
#27
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,565
Must say the yin yang layout is even a tad too close for comfort even for relatives. Was travelling with an older relative recently and was nudged repeatedly for various things like choice of food and drinks... after a few such distracting looks and nudges I too initiated the divider’s upward movement!