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This thread is a continuation of the ever popular https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...k-staffer.html thread. We are incredibly fortunate on the BA Board to have a number of staff members among us who are willing to share their knowledge and expertise. We have pilots and cabin crew, ground crew, lounge staff, check in staff, air traffic controllers and even an ex-military ATC with a bear fixation! Remember: No question is stupid here, and nothing is too geeky! So please ask anything you like, with one exception. No questions about security please. Happy new year all |
When positioning, are members of flight or cabin crew allocated crew meals or regular passenger meals?
Apologies if this has been asked and answered previously. |
Passenger meals. |
Shown to seat in first?
When do you get shown to your seat in first vs having to find it yourself? On my past few flights I’ve had a personal welcome at the door and either been escorted from the door to the seat or had an appology and been given directions. Today I was just told to turn left. No issue just interested. |
Originally Posted by ChrL
(Post 30612859)
When do you get shown to your seat in first vs having to find it yourself? On my past few flights I’ve had a personal welcome at the door and either been escorted from the door to the seat or had an appology and been given directions. Today I was just told to turn left. No issue just interested. |
Originally Posted by MFCC
(Post 30612873)
If there's a crew member available to do so then you'll be shown to your seat. There should be an F crew member at the boarding door for this purpose, but if they're otherwise engaged then it will fall to one of the other crew boarding (CSM/D and a WT crew member). It might be that one of these is off already or assisting PRMs etc so it's not always possible. If there's someone around to show you then you will be; but an open passenger door can never be left unattended so you may need to find your own way at times.
What is a PRM? |
PRM, Passenger with Reduced Mobilty. As MFCC says if there are two crew at the door one of them will escort customers in First to their seats, if there is not you will just be directed. |
From a passenger perspective, it feels like some crews are friendlier than others. I’m wondering from a cabin crew perspective if a) they feel that’s true, and b) whether they similarly find some passenger groups (as in, averaged over the whole plane) better sometimes than others?
If so, do you have any theories as to why? |
I don’t think we can or should generalise, I am upbeat and friendly to everyone and find that my customers are the same back to me. |
Also, I’m terrible about complaining on board without sounding like an entitled ****. Some people seem to have a knack. Wondering again from crew perspective what makes a complaint reasonable and most likely to result in a resolution without upsetting anyone? What gets your back up, and on the flip side, what makes you more inclined to help? Of course I’m assuming there’s a difference in cabins (e.g. I wouldn’t complain the sparkling wine was not up to scratch in economy, where I usually travel). |
Well like any feedback it should be polite, timely and unemotional, I am more likely to think positively if demands are not made and the customer knows what I can and cannot do. If I cannot rectify the issue I will get CR to contact the customer as I will not waste my energy on people that make outrageous demands, I will let CR know exactly what had been said and offered and if I believe the customer is entitled to more than I can offer or is taking the P.:D |
Originally Posted by Can I help you
(Post 30612938)
Well like any feedback it should be polite, timely and unemotional, I am more likely to think positively if demands are not made and the customer knows what I can and cannot do. If I cannot rectify the issue I will get CR to contact the customer as I will not waste my energy on people that make outrageous demands, I will let CR know exactly what had been said and offered and if I believe the customer is entitled to more than I can offer or is taking the P.:D |
I have a family member traveling next month in CW on BA from LHR to the USA. She is vegetarian and has also been diagnosed as having a gluten intolerance which does make food somewhat tricky. BA have a gluten free option, a vegetarian option but not a gluten free vegetarian option. So there isn't really a simple solution other than taking her own food.
I expect some of the vegetarian meal may happen to be gluten free and some of the gluten free meal may happen to be vegetarian. Does BA have the ingredients/allergen list for their meals (eg could we look at the VLML ingredients list to see whether there are any gluten containing ingredients)? Is this information available in advance? Are there any other suggestions anyone has for dealing with this situation? I was wondering whether she should take a lunch box and fill it up in the lounge (if the food there is well labelled). |
When planes get flown to Manila/Cardiff/elsewhere etc for maintenance are there specific crews for that on a rota or is it just part of being say an A380/A32X pilot etc and all pilots will at some point go there and back?
Also on the longer hauls is there a member of CC too? Curious as always, thanks! Pete |
I can answer the second question, there are no cabin crew onboard. |
Originally Posted by Can I help you
(Post 30632333)
I can answer the second question, there are no cabin crew onboard. |
Are BA flying any routes from BHX in summer 2019? |
Is it planned long term to use automated safety demo voice (for example like Finnair) as all the shorthaul aircraft's screens are enhanced and we see more and more manual safety demonstrations? One advantage would be to be able to play key safety information in other languages, too + then the cabin crew don't have to do it. Some have seemed very nervous / unsure when reading the text.
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Different service port/starboard
I have a question about different service depending on which side of the aircraft you are on. We flew in F for the first time in November and thoroughly enjoyed it. We were in one of the pairs of seats and Mrs Definitas received a more expanded service than I did. She was asked for her food preferences some time before me and, as a result, got her choice, whereas I didn’t. She was offered pyjamas whereas I wasn’t (it was a daytime flight) and was offered chocolates from a box after lunch and I wasn’t. None of these things made me feel like I wanted to “complain” but I wondered how much is down to individuals and how much is down to training (and departure from that training). We are flying F again at the end of the month (amex 2-4-1) and, having a bit of a sweet tooth, I might be tempted to mention the chocolates in particular. That said, I'm only a lowly blue BAEC member. Are the chocolates held for GGL members? (Lol) |
Originally Posted by PETER01
(Post 30632315)
When planes get flown to Manila/Cardiff/elsewhere etc for maintenance are there specific crews for that on a rota or is it just part of being say an A380/A32X pilot etc and all pilots will at some point go there and back?
Also on the longer hauls is there a member of CC too? Curious as always, thanks! Pete |
Originally Posted by Definitas
(Post 30633011)
I have a question about different service depending on which side of the aircraft you are on. We flew in F for the first time in November and thoroughly enjoyed it. We were in one of the pairs of seats and Mrs Definitas received a more expanded service than I did. She was asked for her food preferences some time before me and, as a result, got her choice, whereas I didn’t. She was offered pyjamas whereas I wasn’t (it was a daytime flight) and was offered chocolates from a box after lunch and I wasn’t. None of these things made me feel like I wanted to “complain” but I wondered how much is down to individuals and how much is down to training (and departure from that training). We are flying F again at the end of the month (amex 2-4-1) and, having a bit of a sweet tooth, I might be tempted to mention the chocolates in particular. That said, I'm only a lowly blue BAEC member. Are the chocolates held for GGL members? (Lol) Never sit in your seat and feel unhappy, if you are not being treated as you expect then ask to speak to one of the senior crew onboard so that we can manage the situation. |
When traveling longhaul with an infant and seated at a child seat position, what's the best way to ensure we receive one of the child seats on board? I believe there are fewer carrycots and child seats than there are carrycot/child seat positions, but I could be wrong.
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There are more car seats and cots than bassinet positions, the only problem we sometimes have is not enough cots, I would inform the crew once seated that you need one of the car seats. |
Originally Posted by Can I help you
(Post 30633240)
There are more car seats and cots than bassinet positions, the only problem we sometimes have is not enough cots, I would inform the crew once seated that you need one of the car seats.
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Originally Posted by Definitas
(Post 30633011)
I have a question about different service depending on which side of the aircraft you are on. We flew in F for the first time in November and thoroughly enjoyed it. We were in one of the pairs of seats and Mrs Definitas received a more expanded service than I did. She was asked for her food preferences some time before me and, as a result, got her choice, whereas I didn’t. She was offered pyjamas whereas I wasn’t (it was a daytime flight) and was offered chocolates from a box after lunch and I wasn’t. None of these things made me feel like I wanted to “complain” but I wondered how much is down to individuals and how much is down to training (and departure from that training). We are flying F again at the end of the month (amex 2-4-1) and, having a bit of a sweet tooth, I might be tempted to mention the chocolates in particular. That said, I'm only a lowly blue BAEC member. Are the chocolates held for GGL members? (Lol)
Originally Posted by ChrL
(Post 30615712)
I have a family member traveling next month in CW on BA from LHR to the USA. She is vegetarian and has also been diagnosed as having a gluten intolerance which does make food somewhat tricky. BA have a gluten free option, a vegetarian option but not a gluten free vegetarian option. So there isn't really a simple solution other than taking her own food.
I expect some of the vegetarian meal may happen to be gluten free and some of the gluten free meal may happen to be vegetarian. Does BA have the ingredients/allergen list for their meals (eg could we look at the VLML ingredients list to see whether there are any gluten containing ingredients)? Is this information available in advance? Are there any other suggestions anyone has for dealing with this situation? I was wondering whether she should take a lunch box and fill it up in the lounge (if the food there is well labelled). You're not supposed to remove food from the lounge, but I imagine if you explained to the lounge staff what you were doing, they would probably let you fill a lunchbox. Just make sure you don't bring fresh food into the USA undeclared! |
Originally Posted by marcosscriven
(Post 30612899)
From a passenger perspective, it feels like some crews are friendlier than others. ... If so, do you have any theories as to why?
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Chocolates! Never seen or been offered any in F. If only on request what else are we missing and should ask for?
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Are CC ever trained in any aspects of flight deck (eg how to work radios and other such tasks) in the event of one of Skipper or FO being incapacitated? Or is the expectation at that point always that the remaining member of the flight crew immediately diverts to nearest viable alternate and handles all the cockpit workload his / herself?
Just curious... |
We would take instructions from the pilot in control and are expected to do such things as reading out check lists. |
How often do you experience turbulence that is so bad you are crapping it, too, but are having to smile and tell passengers to relax?
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I have never been worried in turbulence and outside of the meal service and actually enjoy it as it adds a bit of excitement to the day. |
Originally Posted by Pascoe
(Post 30635686)
Are CC ever trained in any aspects of flight deck (eg how to work radios and other such tasks) in the event of one of Skipper or FO being incapacitated? Or is the expectation at that point always that the remaining member of the flight crew immediately diverts to nearest viable alternate and handles all the cockpit workload his / herself?
Just curious... |
Has there been an instance of flight crew requesting assistance from "any onboard pilots"? I imagine doing an autoland might come into play in the case of single-pilot operation to reduce the workload, rather than worry about the competence of a flight-sim/BAFT jockey!
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Originally Posted by BoeBus
(Post 30636183)
Has there been an instance of flight crew requesting assistance from "any onboard pilots"? I imagine doing an autoland might come into play in the case of single-pilot operation to reduce the workload, rather than worry about the competence of a flight-sim/BAFT jockey!
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Have any of the staff on here flown on other OW airlines in a personal capacity, especially in J, to compare to BA? I ask because we regularly see the comments on the q-suite and AA's 77w.
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Originally Posted by offshore_bob
(Post 30636226)
Have any of the staff on here flown on other OW airlines in a personal capacity, especially in J, to compare to BA? I ask because we regularly see the comments on the q-suite and AA's 77w.
Yes, QR J. Knocked the socks of off BA in J but there was a language barrier with my originally assigned crew member until a more “northern friendly” crew member was sourced CX F, on par service wise i’d say apart from F&B in which case CX yet again........won AA out of MAN.........NEVER Again! surprised? No. Bonus targets are king in BA, customers...... god knows. But fear not, we don’t mess with safety. |
Originally Posted by Waterhorse
(Post 30636195)
We wouldn’t do that. There are too many unknowns about the assistance offered Still laudable, but as you say, the genuinely unknown scenario of taking a total stranger into the cockpit and taking on faith that they would be able to do what was required of them sounds in my limited experience like it might risk increasing, not decreasing both cockpit workload and therefore risk, for the remaining functional pilot. Hence my Q around whether there was ever anything more formal in place within the airlines with CC staff. Thanks for the colour |
Originally Posted by BoeBus
(Post 30636183)
Has there been an instance of flight crew requesting assistance from "any onboard pilots"? I imagine doing an autoland might come into play in the case of single-pilot operation to reduce the workload, rather than worry about the competence of a flight-sim/BAFT jockey!
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Originally Posted by Sigwx
(Post 30638428)
Yes, QR J. Knocked the socks of off BA in J but there was a language barrier with my originally assigned crew member until a more “northern friendly” crew member was sourced �� CX F, on par service wise i’d say apart from F&B in which case CX yet again........won AA out of MAN.........NEVER Again! surprised? No. Bonus targets are king in BA, customers...... god knows. But fear not, we don’t mess with safety. |
Originally Posted by Sigwx
(Post 30638428)
Yes, QR J. Knocked the socks of off BA in J but there was a language barrier with my originally assigned crew member until a more “northern friendly” crew member was sourced �� CX F, on par service wise i’d say apart from F&B in which case CX yet again........won AA out of MAN.........NEVER Again! surprised? No. Bonus targets are king in BA, customers...... god knows. But fear not, we don’t mess with safety.
Originally Posted by LPQ
(Post 30634464)
Chocolates! Never seen or been offered any in F. If only on request what else are we missing and should ask for?
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