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Jul 20, 2022, 1:14 pm
#754
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I wonder if there were some records set in the unconditioned corridor between T3 and the tower base, and in the control room itself this week? And if there were any creative solutions to try and keep everyone cool? I can't work well when I am hot and I am not doing anything of similar importance as the controllers.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
Jul 20, 2022, 1:30 pm
#755
Join Date: Dec 2012
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It does well in J but wouldn’t in F from a commercial POV. Flub is better than an undersold F. Now please don’t suggest BA changes it to a 3 class triple. I’m still hanging on to hope against hope of ever seeing GIG again (ex 747 problems). Please don’t take my BNA away from me too!
Jul 20, 2022, 1:37 pm
#756
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I wonder if there were some records set in the unconditioned corridor between T3 and the tower base, and in the control room itself this week? And if there were any creative solutions to try and keep everyone cool? I can't work well when I am hot and I am not doing anything of similar importance as the controllers.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
I was wondering if a fine mist spray via fans like they do in the ME would keep it cool. Briefly I wondered if testing the sprinkler system might also deliver cooling dividends.
Then I remeber in once was walking through a pier at LGW to an aircraft when the fire alarm sounded constantly, the travellators all shut down and the sprinklers all erupted along with some vents in the roof.
If you’ve ever seen scenes of Ross Kemp ‘Back In Afghanistan’ with the crud kicked up with a medivac ‘dust off’ you’d be in the right tracks to imagine the visuals of the scene in the North Terminal. Hell and damnation were rought upon them hallowed gates for the brief period. The uniform shirts never did come out white ever again.
Jul 20, 2022, 2:51 pm
#757
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Originally Posted by Sigwx;[url=tel:34443048
34443048[/url]]It does well in J but wouldn’t in F from a commercial POV. Flub is better than an undersold F. Now please don’t suggest BA changes it to a 3 class triple. I’m still hanging on to hope against hope of ever seeing GIG again (ex 747 problems). Please don’t take my BNA away from me too!
Jul 20, 2022, 4:12 pm
#758
Join Date: Nov 2017
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You’ve answered your own question. And if they sell F as F, they have to pay for an additional crew member. If there isn’t enough yield to justify it, they don’t do it.
Jul 21, 2022, 9:54 am
#759
Join Date: Jun 2017
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Forgive my naďveté as I have only passing knowledge of such things, but how would an airline know that yield isn't there if a particular cabin isn't available for purchase? Unless it's a case of we're-only-going-to-market-this-as-a-three-class-flight-but-might-have-a-9-on-the-route-sometimes-but-we-won't-know-that-until-closer-to-time-so-we-just-won't-bother-with-F?
Jul 21, 2022, 11:13 am
#760
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Well in the case of BNA they’ll have the records from pre-covid, when they did offer paid F. And they’ll also have detailed historic knowledge of all customers across three airlines purchasing F since the AJB began (albeit on a connecting basis, but it’ll give a good indication).
Jul 22, 2022, 11:03 pm
#762
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… and will have conducted extensive market research before opening the line. If anything, Ba tends to sometimes open F where it isn’t needed rather than the other way round…
Jul 23, 2022, 8:33 am
#763
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LHR Air Traffic Control
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I wonder if there were some records set in the unconditioned corridor between T3 and the tower base, and in the control room itself this week? And if there were any creative solutions to try and keep everyone cool? I can't work well when I am hot and I am not doing anything of similar importance as the controllers.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
I would ask Heathrow Tower but I think he has been at Fairford this week.
The aircon in the control room was ‘renewed’ over the past winter, so from all accounts it seems to have coped.
The link bridge is another matter…..I think a temp of near 50 C was seen at one point.
Jul 25, 2022, 5:23 am
#764
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL
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Window Blinds
On every BA flight I have been on (SH, LH, doesn't matter), the crew insist that window blinds are open on fake off and on landing. On an AA metal (BA codeshare) TATL yesterday in a 77W departing LHR 5pm, the window blinds were closed on boarding and largely remained closed until landing in JFK. It certainly kept the cabin cooler and suited me just fine (perhaps I am a troglodyte).
Why do BA insist on window blinds being open on take off and landing whereas others flying the same route with the same planes do not?
Why do BA insist on window blinds being open on take off and landing whereas others flying the same route with the same planes do not?
