Just realised I somehow missed the last bit of Waterhorse's post about the mandatory safety equipment. Thanks both - explains it all.

Al.

Quick question with regards to an aircraft type decision, particularly topical given the recent LOI from IAG for the grounded 737 MAX series. My question is do / would the IAG pilots representatives be part of the decision or provide any input to the process?

It seems particularly relevant at the moment given the timing of the IAG LOI decision, coming at a time when the type is still forcibly grounded after 2 fatal crashes, no date on the horizon when the grounding will be lifted and what has also been uncovered at Boeing / FAA between the second March crash and the June LOI? As noted in the other long thread, IAG's timing for the LOI seems rather inappropriate to say the least?

So am curious as to whether representatives of the pilots were consulted and had any reservations, particularly given Boeing and the FAA only acted to support the grounding once they were forced to by the rest of the world. No alarm bells voiced to WW?

Not a staffer, but I think this is ALL to do with money and getting the very, very, very best deal possible from Airbus and/or Boeing!

The LOI was signed with a rock bottom price under consideration to help Boeing's perception in the public eye. If IAG go that way they get a fantastic price. However, I think their primary game was to use that as a bargaining chip for their next Airbus A32x deal. Either way they get a great deal. He may not care much, but WW isn't stupid. As such I doubt anyone outside the senior executives were consulted. But I am not an insider/staffer!

rb211.

Also bear in mind that a Letter of Intent is a looooooooong way from placing an order.

This might just be a way of putting Airbus under pressure to offer a discount.

LOIs always have escape hatches. Here they may be intended for the consumption of the other airlines, Governments and public.

In all my years I never heard of a pilot group being consulted before an order/option/loi was placed.

I was once sent on a course that started yesterday, but nobody will notice you weren't there:confused:

Similar theme, I've handed over a couple of 'Golden Tickets' over the years, do these just go on an employee record as 'a good thing' or is there some more tangible benefit for the receiving member of staff. Secondly is that across the board as I once gave one to the guardian of the lounge in MAN for letting all 6 of us in on a quiet day :-)

It feels very Ryan air, like a boarding wait double whammy. You wait at the gate (hopefully in a seat) then 'yay, we're boarding'.....then 'oh we're standing on a jetty'......as mentioned it appears uncoordinated.

Half expected that answer, sad really as they could (and should) make something more out of it, we don't exactly get many to hand out so it usually is to someone who's made a real difference. My last one was for a CSD on a night flight back from Jo'Burg, I felt rough getting on the plane and seems I'd got some form of food poisoning. I was in WT+ but she spotted I wasn't doing well, put me in a spare CW seat so I could lie down and kept feeding me anti sickness pills every x hours til we got back.

We operate a corporate reward scheme at work where nominations etc can be made and points are awarded on a scale depending on the award, you can then trade the points for various stuff including Amazon vouchers, perhaps BA should implement something similar.